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December 25th, 2024, 10:57 AM
#31

Originally Posted by
FishHog
only one person gets the tag. I as a solo hunter have the same odds as anyone else.
the fact that groups want to allow a bunch of people hunt under one person’s tag doesn’t change the fact that it’s still only one tag.
sure you can hunt more often but that doesn’t change the statistics that its one tag and it’s fair all around
all the above is obviously not including past accumulated points
The problem with the current system is the "game player"hunters,making others getting a tag impossible by them applying-getting it-then throwing it back.
This must change.
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December 25th, 2024 10:57 AM
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December 26th, 2024, 07:53 PM
#32

Originally Posted by
gbk
The problem with the current system is the "game player"hunters,making others getting a tag impossible by them applying-getting it-then throwing it back.
This must change.
It appears that this will change.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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December 27th, 2024, 10:22 AM
#33
It’s a proposed change, not official. I would prefer to see it left the way it is. 80% of tags are claimed. If that becomes 100% quotas will be reduced to 80% of what they are currently. In effect changing almost nothing. The mnr mandate is to manage harvest not tag #’s.
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December 27th, 2024, 02:15 PM
#34

Originally Posted by
gbk
The problem with the current system is the "game player"hunters,making others getting a tag impossible by them applying-getting it-then throwing it back.
This must change.
So,if you apply and receive a tag,you own it regardless of circumstances. Beautiful. Personal responsibility....my goodness,what a novel concept.
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December 28th, 2024, 05:50 PM
#35

Originally Posted by
outdoorlife
It’s a proposed change, not official. I would prefer to see it left the way it is. 80% of tags are claimed. If that becomes 100% quotas will be reduced to 80% of what they are currently. In effect changing almost nothing. The mnr mandate is to manage harvest not tag #’s.
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I agree that it’s a proposal but knowing how the MNR works it’s a done deal.
I agree that there is a direct correlation between harvest and tag numbers, so it will be interesting to see what happens if they issue all available tags. Some things that hunters can look at is “number of tags not issued” and “recent success rates”. Depending on the unit, issuing all available tags may not increase the harvest by very much. For example, let’s say an additional 100 bull tags are issued and the success rate is 20% which translates to 5 more bulls being harvested. Is this something to panic about?
Lastly, the MNR has a broad mandate that includes ensuring that hunting is sustainable. They also have a mandate to provide hunting opportunities (and sell licences/tags). It’s a balancing act and is a reason why the MNR is reluctant to take drastic action.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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March 9th, 2025, 01:52 PM
#36
With most units needing 10 points and a lot at 20 points I think a lot of you folks are delusional on this point system. If you want to hunt in units with almost zero chance of success or fly in I guess that's your choice. Most of the core units 30,31,29,28 all need 10 plus points for a bull tag. I guess you can live the dream by going to 21A or 19, under the present system it a tag in your lifetime maybe 2 if you want to hunt in the core range.
The moose herd is in trouble and taking points away in the second round is not going to solve diddle squat.
Anybody following the study going on in unit 13 ?
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March 10th, 2025, 03:01 PM
#37
Looks like there will be no change-at least based on the 2025 moose application process steps, described on their website.
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March 13th, 2025, 10:17 AM
#38
The election suspended any major decisions and changes to processes.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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March 13th, 2025, 01:04 PM
#39

Originally Posted by
Sam Menard
The election suspended any major decisions and changes to processes.
Thanx Sam-that could be an explanation.
Not challenging You,yet the election was a foreseeable slam dunk for Doug Ford............... how this "rather small" issue"(moose tag allocation) would hinder Government timing.
Impacts of Improving the Moose System on hunters would be likely a wash at best at polling stations.
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March 13th, 2025, 05:59 PM
#40
During the run up to an election, Ministries and Departments go into what’s called “caretaker mode” and nothing of significance gets done including changing policies… even if the changes are deemed to be minor.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport. - S. Pope