Proposed Changes to Moose Tag Allocation

[newbiehunter]

I wonder if they thought of second choice application scenario:
1. 99Z
2. My unit - cow/calf
3. My unit - calf

Essentially want only participate in freebie

[newbiehunter]

<quote>The simple solution is to increase the number of tags available such that after round 2, even with the unclaimed tags, the desired number of tags is allocated. This is how the rest of the world runs tag point systems. I do not understand why the MNR cannot figure this out.<\quote>

My guess would be that they don't have enough data to accurately predict the percentage(per WMU) off how much to "inflate" available tags in order to achieve what you are proposing..
3 years with wild swings due to hunters changing their application patterns is not very reliable data

[gbk]

There should be a clause that would take into consideration things beyond the person control or a least a process that a person could appeal the point taken from them. I believe this would allow for a better system. just my 2 cents

MNRF is working with the individual,if there is a JUST CAUSE.
It helps if the issue happens before the seasons start date.
Maybe otherwise too-but it will likely take some serious work.

Phone calls and documents will be needed-but one can get the tag voided,and points given back.

[trimmer21]

There should be a clause that would take into consideration things beyond the person control or a least a process that a person could appeal the point taken from them. I believe this would allow for a better system. just my 2 cents

There is an appeal process,but,it's quite rigid,as it should be,the death of the applicant,a death of an immediate family member,a serious sudden illness or injury,all of which must be verifiable upon investigation. No more BS excuses.

[werner.reiche]

<quote>The simple solution is to increase the number of tags available such that after round 2, even with the unclaimed tags, the desired number of tags is allocated. This is how the rest of the world runs tag point systems. I do not understand why the MNR cannot figure this out.<\quote>

My guess would be that they don't have enough data to accurately predict the percentage(per WMU) off how much to "inflate" available tags in order to achieve what you are proposing..
3 years with wild swings due to hunters changing their application patterns is not very reliable data

Apparently they think they have enough information to start changing the system though. Can't argue it both ways. If there's enough information to fundamentally change how the system works, their should be enough to do tuning to the tag allocation.

[Sam Menard]

My fear is that if the tag allocation reaches 100% then the success rate will increase followed by a tag decrease.

[FishHog]

Exactly what will happen. At the end of the day it’s a very limited resource and if harvest goes up the number of tags will have to go down.
That’s why I never understood the complaints about unclaimed tags. As soon as they are all claimed there will be less available in the first place.

[gbk]

Exactly what will happen. At the end of the day it’s a very limited resource and if harvest goes up the number of tags will have to go down.
That’s why I never understood the complaints about unclaimed tags. As soon as they are all claimed there will be less available in the first place.

I guess the ones wanting to go "reasonable" moose hunting,will go.
The ones "holding them back by playing games"will eventually lose their "leverage".

Overall-there will be less tags definitely-but the transparency will be there.
So the one with lesser points per say will not be "pushed out "by the ones playing games.
Because:
True points will rule the few tags.

[Ralphy]

A lot of hunters think that if you apply in the second chance draw first choice you should if awarded the tag lose your points whether you take the tag or not. I don’t think that is fair at all with the new system. Let’s say my group of hunters have two hunters with seven points each the highest point in our group of let’s say six or eight hunters. We were not successful in the primary draw in the wildlife management unit we applied in . Bull tags are awarded down to seven points in the secondary draw first choice. No one knows where the cut off is going to be. there is 10 bull tags left for 50 hunters with seven points. my group has a better chance of getting one of these tags with two chances as one, but then we could get none or we could get two tags when all we really want is one. With hunters not knowing the points required to be awarded a tag you would be a fool not to send two seven pointers in. being able to apply in groups would fix the unclaimed tag problem as long as a group has a member with the required points and pull the remaining group members out of the remaining draws like what Sam says. The way I see it.

[alfoldivandor]

My suggestion is that getting Moose tag have to be attached to the Wolf hunt success ...
No predator hunt = no Moose tag no moose hunt ...
In some area day and night the Wolfs are howling ,
I guess they hunting and eating Moose meat ...!