Question About Accompanying A Hunter

[finsfurfeathers]

Was reviewing this old thread think its relevant, good read through and you'll get your answer at the end.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...as-a-spectator

[gbk]

Situation can be easily interpreted(or done,for that matter)that the observer may/will contribute to "harming"an animal.
See highlighted.

What the observer will do then,once the deer is hit?
Since no one can say (unless the game falls over within eyesight)that the game is dead or alive-the observer actually can not chase after it!

What the observer will do then,once the deer is hit?
Go home-or sit in the truck waiting for an unknown time frame-while the licensed person chases after the game,with intention to find it,and finish it off if not yet dead.

Very "non life like" scenario.A hard sell ..........

[finsfurfeathers]

Situation can be easily interpreted(or done,for that matter)that the observer may/will contribute to "harming"an animal.
See highlighted.

What the observer will do then,once the deer is hit?
Since no one can say (unless the game falls over within eyesight)that the game is dead or alive-the observer actually can not chase after it!

What the observer will do then,once the deer is hit?
Go home-or sit in the truck waiting for an unknown time frame-while the licensed person chases after the game,with intention to find it,and finish it off if not yet dead.
here's a response from a previous linked thread you may have not read


Very "non life like" scenario.A hard sell ..........

Again read the definition the actions of the observer has to directly causes harm THIS MAY/WILL has no bearing.
I'm not a deer hunter but from my understanding after a big game animal is shot a reasonable time is given for the animal to bed down and expire before recovery commences as not to bump it further and further. Hence most proceed under the assumption they are recovering a dead animal once it is found then if it dead the observer can continue on if its alive can't be an active participant it further. We are not dealing with Schrodinger's cat seems most can distinguish between an active participant and an observer if you can't my suggestion to you is don't take a non license person with you.
here is a response from a previous linked thread
"[COLOR=#000000]I received a reply moments ago from the MNR. Very fast, I'm impressed. Emailed last night and already got the answer confirmed I was looking for.

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[COLOR=#000000]Hello,

[COLOR=#000000]Thank you for your inquiry.

[COLOR=#000000]Yes, you may sit in the blind with your friends and observe the hunt only. You may not actively participate in the hunt in anyway, including but not limited to: calling, rattling, point out game, driving deer, holding/shooting firearms, laying out scent trails, baiting, etc.).

[COLOR=#000000]Since you are not actively participating in the hunt, hunter orange would not be legally required. That being said, we strongly encourage you to wear it for your own personal safety.

[COLOR=#000000]We hope you have found this information helpful. If you require further assistance, please contact the Natural Resources Information Centre at 1-800-667-1940[COLOR=#000000].

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[Synergy7146]

Thank you for all the replies! Greatly appreciated.

[tom gobble]

I think both examples are totally legal. Like others said it all depends on the C.O. I bring my kids with me when I can, how else can they be exposed to a hunt. They are not touching any firearms or bows or calls. Do I let them try and scratch a turkey call before the season opens in a non hunting situation, of course I do. Do I keep calling them in and chase birds around the forest with a gun in my hands with them definitely NOT. I think people look in to these rules a bit too much and I understand why but if the person is not participating in a hunt what so ever don’t worry about it. Don’t let them touch anything while your hunting or push deer for an example and put a camera in there hands and enjoy the show. Like others said you can ask the MNR. Enjoy your time out.

[brent]

Both are completely, 100% legal.

[Goosechsr]

Interpretation is similar to opinion- Everyone has one. Read the regulations which really are all that counts

[gbk]

Interpretation is similar to opinion- Everyone has one. Read the regulations which really are all that counts

To help if one is "hang up" on this term : interpreted.

Interpretation of the situation by the authorities on site is the issue ,not how one or another hunter sees it.

If one wants to do it,by all means -go for it.
Just keep in mind,your buddy accompanying you will be in trouble ,not you-and your buddy(not being licensed)will be likely relying on your "expert "opinion beforehand.
If the authorities will have different "opinion"about the situation-they will interpret it differently then presented, and will let your buddy sort the case out in courts.
Why taking chances?



For the -how to hook a kid on hunting.....there is likely a day and night difference in "interpretation" when showing up with a 10-14 years old (especially if the kid is related-neighbor etc) , then with a full grown adult.

Just my opinion.

Good luck to anyone out there.

[brent]

To think someone would get charged for sitting and observing a hunt while not being an active participant in it, is absurd.

[Bigburndogg]

in most places it’s totally fine for a friend to just tag along and watch the turkey hunt or help set up trail cams, as long as they don’t touch the gun or make any calls. Every state/region has its own rules, though, so it’s a good idea to double‑check your local wildlife agency’s website.