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January 21st, 2014, 06:55 AM
#11
What if they shoot the cub in the fall?
Originally Posted by
canadaman30
What is any different in the fall? Anyone who shoots a bear with cubs is pathetic.
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January 21st, 2014 06:55 AM
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January 21st, 2014, 08:17 AM
#12
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January 21st, 2014, 09:06 AM
#13
Regarding the pending spring hunt and the justification for it.... Although I understand that there are potential economic and tourism benefits if the hunt were to continue and become non-resident friendly.... and I would like to see the spring hunt return as another opportunity for Ontario hunters as well... (It's a very long time between big game seasons here)...
but I also wonder - what is the current tag allocation for these problem bear areas. If population control / reduction is the goal, would handing out more additional tags (similar to deer in SW Ontario) not be a viable option ?? I understand that a 2nd seal is available in a few select areas... but if there's a bear problem area where culling is the goal, why not hand out 5 or 6 tags??
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January 21st, 2014, 09:37 AM
#14
Originally Posted by
HuntCamp'r
Regarding the pending spring hunt and the justification for it.... Although I understand that there are potential economic and tourism benefits if the hunt were to continue and become non-resident friendly.... and I would like to see the spring hunt return as another opportunity for Ontario hunters as well... (It's a very long time between big game seasons here)...
but I also wonder - what is the current tag allocation for these problem bear areas. If population control / reduction is the goal, would handing out more additional tags (similar to deer in SW Ontario) not be a viable option ?? I understand that a 2nd seal is available in a few select areas... but if there's a bear problem area where culling is the goal, why not hand out 5 or 6 tags??
The problem is that it probably won't benefit the outfitters. When I worked in the bush, I got to know the local outfitter and he told me that almost all of his business came from non resident hunters (US) and that resident hunters didn't usually bother with bears. The locals up north are shooting bears primarily for safety and to protect their property.
Roe+
A bad day hunting or fishing is better than a good day at work.
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January 21st, 2014, 09:48 AM
#15
Originally Posted by
Roe+
The problem is that it probably won't benefit the outfitters. When I worked in the bush, I got to know the local outfitter and he told me that almost all of his business came from non resident hunters (US) and that resident hunters didn't usually bother with bears. The locals up north are shooting bears primarily for safety and to protect their property.
Roe+
That being said, reviving the Hunt and opening it to non-residents is likely the best option to remove more bears.... and can stimulate the local economy somewhat, as well... They should do it.
but I think they could loosen up the tags for residents as well... For instance, I hunt bears in the Bancroft - Cardiff area...(wmu57) I don't know it the bear population is a problem there, but the locals tell me it is??? I would gladly take a second one, given the opportunity... If I could get a second seal. The additional seals are very limited, as you can see on the attached list.
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...ent/250794.pdf
Last edited by HuntCamp'r; January 21st, 2014 at 09:52 AM.
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January 21st, 2014, 10:03 AM
#16
That's funny because I hunt in WMU 61 and have a cottage in WMU 60. Haven't seen many bears around either area. Our camp is 1100 acres and we didn't see any bears this year. Last year there were a couple of sightings including one that was 10yds. behind me while on the stand.
If you really want bears go to the areas where they opened the hunt or talk to Woody if you don't mind travelling to White River. He has a buddy who is an outfitter.
Roe+
A bad day hunting or fishing is better than a good day at work.
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January 28th, 2014, 09:56 PM
#17
Originally Posted by
canadaman30
What is any different in the fall? Anyone who shoots a bear with cubs is pathetic.
But in just a few months from being a cub with a Disney channel name it becomes a legal bear. But at least they have the summer months to be prayed upon by the boars. Is it also pathetic to harvest calf moose and fawns? If cutting down the population is what they want, in my opinion just taking out the trophies does not get the job done.
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January 29th, 2014, 07:32 AM
#18
Here is how the MNR will bring the full hunt back in the spring.
The 2 year study will show that not many bears were shot but problem bears were still an issue. ( No one will hunt them around towns )
Not many northerners hunt bears anyway to do much to the population growth that we have.
The next step will be opening more areas to residents and then after that we will get the full hunt back in most of Ontario along with non residents.
This is how it will happen I suspect.
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February 6th, 2014, 08:42 PM
#19
Are the dates going to be May 1 - June 15th?