Why does everyone push for a lab?

[bardern]

ok cdnvizsla now the gloves are off! here is what we will do. we will set up 3 100yd retrieves on 10pd geese back to back and we will time Guage and the pointer of your choise. The loser buys beer for a year or seeing your a pointer type of guy Perrier. ;-)

as you can see from the avatar on the left obviously he is a fine representation of the breed!

[crackerd]

As far as the flat earth goes, you need to take a reality check, the pointing breeds run circles around the retrievers when it comes to speed... Labs are like the HUM V of the dog world, slow steady

cdnv, tried giving you a lifeline with the flat earth jest - not a shovel for digging yourself into a deeper hole. But if you can extricate yourself from it, you may want to do as kraka advises and go watch a retriever field trial to see just how slow



(and steady, too) performance Labs really are. Most of the time they're that "slow" even with something in their mouths on the recall, too, 'cause they've got to go out "slow" again for a second retrieve and maybe a third or fourth, at say 400-450 yards.

MG

[terrym]

Ah yes here we go. The old my dog is faster, smarter blah blah blah. The reality is the different breeds are for different hunts. Apples and Oranges. Very few pointing breeds could handle serious waterfowling especially late season and very few retrievers could follow an all age field trial pointing breed that covers ground like a Jackrabbit without having a heart attack. There is a reason why pointing breed field trials are judged from horseback. Very different games. The thing is there can be a middle ground and the slower retrievers can still produce upland birds successfully and some pointing breeds can still be used for waterfowl. My opinion to the OP was to buy a dog that best suits what he intends on hunting most. I recommended the Lab based on his waterfowl criteria. Great breed, lots of choice in breeders but I don't duck hunt anymore so would likely never buy one.

[bardern]

Terry it has been such a long crappy winter I am bored stiff and have been reduced to trying to stir the "mine is bigger" pot. no meant offence to anyone.


Labs are the ultimate sporting dog BTW

[jobbershunting]

I need a dog to make over 1000 retrieves per year, be social with many different people and have the size to run down wing tipped geese on dry fields. Other than maybe a CBR no other dog other than a lab will do what I require.

I have to disagree with you on that one Barry. A GSP, GWP, or PP will do exactly and the first two are more likely put that wing tipped goose to shame than a lab. How many labs will tangle with a badger and come out on top? Many many GSP and GWP do that each year when hunting upland out west.

[jobbershunting]

ok cdnvizsla now the gloves are off! here is what we will do. we will set up 3 100yd retrieves on 10pd geese back to back and we will time Guage and the pointer of your choise. The loser buys beer for a year or seeing your a pointer type of guy Perrier. ;-)

as you can see from the avatar on the left obviously he is a fine representation of the breed!

Barry, again bud, sorry to disagree but I have seen Cdn's vizlas run 100 yard marks.....for your sake I hope he drinks something cheap lol.

Edit*** Not too sure on the return with a 10lbs goose...haven't observed that.

[yellow dog]

The fastest world class sprint dog teams are English pointers, GSP, Graysters . A lab doesn't even come to reaching these top speeds running in a dog team. Anyone saying they can is a fool.

[bardern]

mine is still bigger.....

[yellow dog]

mine is still bigger.....

Funny man.

[ebenezer]

I try not to recommend any type of dog to any one. I love my labs but they are not the dog for some people. I don't recommend people get a certain breed because if it doesn't turn out then you are to blame. I will tell people about what I have done with my labs but tell them that they need to shop around and find out what breed is going to fit into their family, their interests and their perfered hunting. Some I would like to recommend some get a cat.