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    Yes you can hunt with a pellet gun even if it is under 500 fps.

    You only need a PAL if the Pellet gun shoots 500 fps or faster.

    Therefore a pellet gun shooting less then 500 fps (ex 495) can be used for hunting and a PAL is not needed.
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    Don't confuse the firearms definition in Provincial regulations with Federal licensing requirements. The FWCA specifically identifies what a firearm is, for the purposes of the hunting regulations. Federal Firearms Act and Criminal Code differ. You don't require a PAL for a pellet gun under. 500 fps, but that same gun is still a firearm where hunting regulations are concerned. And to confuse things even more, a pellet gun that has a muzzle velocity under the 500 fps, is still classed as a "firearm " for Criminal Code firearms offences, such as point firearm, careless use etc.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurkeyRookie View Post
    If that were the case (and it may be, but I don't believe so) everyone with a crossbow would need a PAL as well as "bows" is listed there. And I haven't heard boo on here from all the X-Bow hunters about it.
    It does specify air and pellet pistols under 500 fps. Crossbows, bows are not subject.

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    If that were the case I'm sure many bow hunters would be in fear of being charged for not having a PAL. When they refer them to a firearm that means they must follow firearm rules. Such as being cased and not shot off the road. an MNR officer don't care if you have a PAL or not. On the other hand a Police officer only cares about the PAL and not hunting permits.

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    No one has asked him why he plans to hunt with an air rifle. He may have a full H1 and a PAL. In other places they do a lot of hunting with Air Rifles.

    Hey Saulo92, do you have an H1 and a PAL and enjoy hunting with Air Rifles, or do you only have an H2 and PAL?
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    hunting with an air rifle can do the trick if you're smart with it. I've been flogged for wanting to go out for rabbits with it, but a well placed shot at the right distance will do the trick. small game with a pellet rifle (shooting 495), means rabbits at a short distance or anything smaller. it often results in passing on racoons, foxes, cotoyes and bigger animals which unfortunately would simply be blinded by a head shot and starve to death without being taken as a successful kill. also, caliber makes a difference here. i wouldn't go .177 on and furry critter.
    good luck OP. chances are you can bag a few critters this year. if you get the duck stamp, mourning doves are a great way to use the pellet gun. grouse and pheasant and crows are also good shooting. i've seen and wacked more small game with the .22 air rifle than I have the longbow or crossbow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkrockerpj View Post
    chances are you can bag a few critters this year. if you get the duck stamp, mourning doves are a great way to use the pellet gun. grouse and pheasant and crows are also good shooting. i've seen and wacked more small game with the .22 air rifle than I have the longbow or crossbow.
    You cannot hunt Dove with a pellet gun.

    15. (1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5) and section 23.1, no person shall hunt a migratory bird

    (a) except with a long bow and arrow or with a shotgun not larger than number 10 gauge;
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    so if I am in the area and can pick you up and give you a ride .were we going to hunt .have you scouted a few spots that hold small game .I can even bring a dog to run some bunnys for us .let me know as I would love to go for a hunt around London I love to see and hunt new areas D

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchhunter View Post
    so if I am in the area and can pick you up and give you a ride .were we going to hunt .have you scouted a few spots that hold small game .I can even bring a dog to run some bunnys for us .let me know as I would love to go for a hunt around London I love to see and hunt new areas D
    He would have a hard time "scouting" new areas as he stated that he doesn't have a car , that's his problem.

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    wow, guys, thank you all for the answers! I was not expecting all that help
    Well, here are some further information, as I didnt mention it before:

    I am in Canada as an exchange student, in Fanshawe College here in London. But as I am here afforded by the Brazilian government, I needed to sign a full contract that included "abster-se de portar, intermediar ou consumir armas de fogo" (or, in english: "refrain from possessing, mediating or consuming firearms"). Maybe I could do it and no one would know, but I better follow the rules and not to put my studies in danger hahaha

    I also could buy a bow/xbow, but I would not have enought time to practice it for this coming open season, so pellet guns are my only option ('not to hunt' would be another option, but I dont consider this one)

    So I dont have a PAL so far because that would be useless (and expensive) to me, and i HOPE they gave me the right outdoors card option (dont remember if the right is H1 or H2), and I cant find out it for now because I have only the temporary one so far (that printed yellow card), and it does not say anything about the type of it

    I am pretending now to buy a bike and reach the nearby farms with it, but it will be useless in the deadly Canada's winter.. so in a few months I will have this problem again hahaha if anyone here plans to hunt around London, remember the newbie hunter friends seeking rides! ))

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