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Thread: Ontario’s sweeping Moose Project proposal leaves hunters reeling. Have your say now.

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    Eliminate calf hunting and reduce number of cows take some of the gun tags and put them into bow hunting, it's harder to get the moose into bow range hopefully means less moose taken more people getting into bows means same money for ministry and gives the same opportunities to hunters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waftrudnir View Post
    …I guess not. There were many, many good posts on here and I feel that there is a general consensus when it comes to calves, cows, bear & wolf as well as the aboriginal harvest.
    I don’t see anything of that being addressed by the OFAH! If that’s all they are going to fight for, they won’t see a single penny from me again.
    If you don't see any of that then you aren't looking. I'm a former board member and I've seen the letter that OFAH sent to the MNR with their concerns and recommendations, including Aboriginal harvest, predator hunting, etc. Open your eyes - the OFAH is accomplishing way more than the people on this forum, most of who probably won't even take the time to submit a comment on the proposal. Less talk, more walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude Bro View Post
    If you don't see any of that then you aren't looking. I'm a former board member and I've seen the letter that OFAH sent to the MNR with their concerns and recommendations, including Aboriginal harvest, predator hunting, etc. Open your eyes - the OFAH is accomplishing way more than the people on this forum, most of who probably won't even take the time to submit a comment on the proposal. Less talk, more walk.
    look at the press release and what's being focused on

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    Look back to the start of the tag system and last year to the reduction of the tags in WMU's. As always in the past the only action taken by MNR is to target the licence buying hunters. Here we go again starting this year only the licenced hunters are being targeted. The MNR knows how many tags they issue but they also stated they have no numbers for number of moose harvested by select groups. This band aid solution will only require more cuts later and that will also be from the licence buying hunters later. That's you and me. Nothing implemented by the MNR before has made a difference so why will this work? If the MNR wants to increase the moose population start by addressing everyone that plays a role in this. I have been around too long and have seen nothing work to date.
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    I understand them wanting to reduce the calves taken by limiting the hunt, However, outside of those 2 weeks, if a cow is taken that has a calf, the calf probably won't survive the winter alone. They have good intentions but I am not sure it is that well thought out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakezilla View Post
    I understand them wanting to reduce the calves taken by limiting the hunt, However, outside of those 2 weeks, if a cow is taken that has a calf, the calf probably won't survive the winter alone. They have good intentions but I am not sure it is that well thought out.
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    I must admit I'm shocked at the negativity towards the OFAH in this thread. The fact is the MNR is trying to control the moose population issue simply by controlling the legal hunters. There are so many other factors involved that need to be looked at. This MNR change is not the answer. So the OFAH put out a notice suggesting people make comments. Getting everyone involved and making comments is a good thing. We all have ideas, they all need to be looked at. Sadly I'm pretty sure the MNR has already decided and will make this change no matter what people say. But controlling hunter only, is not the solution. I agree, there needs to be change, but the MNR is trying to make a minor change while keeping all the licence revenue and its not nearly enough. Many hunters agree change is needed, this issue is the MNR isn't using good science to do it.

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    Discussions are GOOD.
    The fact that OFAH and MNR are both encouraging us to provide feedback and express opinions is also GOOD.
    I hope everyone who is commenting here is also putting their comments on the designated page. My comments were submitted there this evening and I don't mind sharing them here as well. Keep in mind that I am by no means a "die hard" moose hunter.

    Here are my ideas:

    1- Stop the moose hunt in Ontario for 2016 and 2017 seasons. This should include all outfitters. No tags sold and no moose hunt of any kind allowed until 2018.

    2- For 2018 and 2019 seasons, only allow adult bulls to be harvested. Limited number of tags will be sold. Everyone will apply as equals without a preferred pool or any type of priority coming into play.

    3- If a tangible improvement in the moose population occurs, we can then come up with additional moose hunting opportunities in some WMUs by the fall of 2020.

    It is up to us to protect moose numbers in Ontario today, so that the future generations can enjoy having healthy populations of this magnificent animal. It has been my privilege to participate in two moose hunts in the past 35 years of hunting in Ontario, and although my group was never successful in a harvest, the hunt was no less than magical. It would be a shame for Ontario's younger hunters to lose their chances of going moose hunting in the coming decades.

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    #1 Reduce tags. #2 Reduce predators. #3 Shorten season. Not sure how many moose are taken in December with snowmobiles but have heard stories that it is quite easy. Why would you have or need a three month season on moose when pretty much everyone agrees they are in trouble. The aboriginals should also only be allowed to ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushman View Post
    #1 Reduce tags. #2 Reduce predators. #3 Shorten season. Not sure how many moose are taken in December with snowmobiles but have heard stories that it is quite easy. Why would you have or need a three month season on moose when pretty much everyone agrees they are in trouble. The aboriginals should also only be allowed to ha
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    Aboriginals should only be allowed to harvest in a set time frame,not at will and for subsistance,not to sell. Not picking on aboriginals here as i have aboriginal friends who completely agree with me.

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