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    Too funny. The irony of having the teachers losing jobs is priceless. These are probably the biggest supporters of Wynne. She was a trustee ( who couldn't balance a budget ), then Minister of Ed and now Premier. They scrubbed each others backs to attain power and now the ones who got her into power are being laid off by budget cuts. They will no doubt counter and spin it by saying it will be through attrition but that is exactly what Hudak proposed and was portrayed as Satan himself. Ahh it's going to be a long 3 more years.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/12...teaching--jobs
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    While I think the teacher unions need to be stood up to and costs gotten back in line to what is sustainable, as a person who last year faced numerous months out of work in their field (I took odds jobs to get by as well as EI when I couldn't find work), I can't find happiness when someone loses their job.

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    I don't wish unemployment on people either and in fact my daughter is in her first year of a Bach of ed program so you could say I have a vested interest ( $20k/yr tuition & res expenses) in the profession but I also realize this group are the single biggest supporters, campaigners and financiers of Wynne. The cost of education rises as enrollment declines. Of course there has to be cuts. She is doing exactly what Hudak campaigned on and he was demonized.
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    Health care is suffering too. CHEO is laying off staff as well.

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    Hudak was honest, too honest and what did he get??

    Sometimes it is better to remain silent and seem like a fool than to speak up an known as one!

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    not completly tied to the liberals... they are projecting 2000 less kids next year, and faceing a large deficet... not much different then if GM was predicting selling 2000 less vehicles, and faceing a big loss, they will lay off employess... not everything is a liberal scam... when i went to highschool there were over 1200 kids in my school, now there is 450... wouldnt be cost effective to have the same amount of teachers there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    Too funny. The irony of having the teachers losing jobs is priceless. These are probably the biggest supporters of Wynne. She was a trustee ( who couldn't balance a budget ), then Minister of Ed and now Premier. They scrubbed each others backs to attain power and now the ones who got her into power are being laid off by budget cuts. They will no doubt counter and spin it by saying it will be through attrition but that is exactly what Hudak proposed and was portrayed as Satan himself. Ahh it's going to be a long 3 more years.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/12...teaching--jobs
    Irony is right! Wait until the PS unions memberships start to drop like stone from simple retirement attrition and they aren't replaced. That loss of 10K jobs will look like a cake walk compared to the actuality of contract lapses and retirements. The frustrating part for me is that all Hudak's strategists had to do was keep their mouths shut in the first place and just let it happen,but,n-o-o-o.they had to make it an election issue,literally handing the election to the Unions on a silver platter. That was just NUTS!
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    If the chickens had come home to roost there would at be some way to feed people.
    A better explanation is the the chickens have left, and the truck comes next week to take the coop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Irony is right! Wait until the PS unions memberships start to drop like stone from simple retirement attrition and they aren't replaced. That loss of 100K jobs will look like a cake walk compared to the actuality of contract lapses and retirements. The frustrating part for me is that all Hudak's strategists had to do was keep their mouths shut in the first place and just let it happen,but,n-o-o-o.they had to make it an election issue,literally handing the election to the Unions on a silver platter. That was just NUTS!
    Absolutely. "The first thing we are going to do is eliminate 10 000 jobs."
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    On "hudak"
    I still don't know if he/they really had any choice. Cmon, think about the left, the spins, the lies, the XYZ. They "tried normal politics in 2011" and despite everything, McGuinty still won. Had Hudak kept his "yap shut" how would Ms Wynne and Unions have played it?

    The same way they have had ITD and many Cdns convinced Harper is an evil man bent on destroying Canada. Fear mongering, the secret agenda the ghost of Mike Harris and deep cuts….She used that in Walkerton re-writing history…she still uses it today.


    If he's tight lipped about cuts anyone with some rational thought knows needs to happen.he comes across as having a secret agenda for something "most" know needs to happen. The left would have buried him and played on the fears just as much.
    Damned if he does
    Damned if doesn't

    On topic
    I do feel for the people that pay the price, but really, they only "have them selves to blame" and their Union to blame..
    ~The growth over thevyears (hiring and cost) while things are shrinking
    ~student enrollment has been going down for years
    ~Automatic pay raises for additional qualification. Gee wish I got a raise for the courses Im forced to take
    ~The laddered system for time in vs pay for performance

    Ontarios growth trend is going down. blah blah. All the other issues debated to death and back. Be it the all the in cost (wages/benefits) the state of the Prov (and who has propped them up) etc, etc.

    That said, Im not sure how large the TDSB is but I don't think 250 is large. If theres 2,500 teachers thats a 10% hair cut.

    The school board met Wednesday evening to approve its approximately $3-billion budget for the next year and address a $16.5-million projected deficit..


    Its not rocket science.

    Now I wonder if all "teachers" took a 1% to 3% haircut in salary if that might save 20 million. Or if the pensions….Or if, Or fi

    Maybe no one or fewer would be getting laid off.

    At the end of the day, none of us really know what/where.
    But yep, as many of us here "warned" going back 4-6 years. Be careful what you wish for.
    If things continue Mike Harris might look like a saint.

    Hydro One
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    Drs are furious despite being one of the few to willingly take pay freeze the past 4-5 years.
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    and all the new….um….revenue tools.

    /shrug


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