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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali88 View Post
    So, correct me if I'm wrong,but if you have a calf tag and hunt in a group for a Bull the first 2 weeks of the hunt, you would have to be in close proximetry to the bull tag because there is no open season for calves so you would be hunting illegal, and you would be charged unless you had another tag even though you didn't want to use it
    Nope! You already have a Moose license to hunt which comes with an automatic calf tag. Everyone who buys a license gets one. What you don't personally have is an adult tag endorsement. However,you may still party hunt as long as the party has at least one adult tag. That's where the 5KM communication rule comes in. Even though you only have a calf tag,you may shoot an adult Moose for which the tag has been issued,BUT,you MUST be able to quickly advise the tag holder that he/she needs to attend and have a sufficient means to advise every other member of the party that the adult tag is filled. Failure to meet those conditions can result in more than one adult Moose being taken by another party member,then watch the shyte hit the fan.
    Just as an aside,should that ever happen,always be sure to advise the OMNRF immediately and request a CO to attend. It means the difference between a simple ticket ($300) as opposed to them opening up a whole can of whup-a** if they have to investigate after the fact.
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    Trimmer: I think he is asking if hunting outside of the party hunting rules, with only a calf tag, which are not in season...would it be illegal. I suggest it is. You either need a valid game seal, or are party hunting. It would be no different than hunting moose or deer for that matter alone, once you have used your game seal, at least in my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Trimmer: I think he is asking if hunting outside of the party hunting rules, with only a calf tag, which are not in season...would it be illegal. I suggest it is. You either need a valid game seal, or are party hunting. It would be no different than hunting moose or deer for that matter alone, once you have used your game seal, at least in my opinion!
    Where he said "hunting illegal",in that aspect,wouldn't be illegal,at all. Once the tag is filled and they're still hunting,then,there'll definitely be a problem until the calf season opens is the way I understand it. If that's incorrect,then,I'm thorughly confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Where he said "hunting illegal",in that aspect,wouldn't be illegal,at all. Once the tag is filled and they're still hunting,then,there'll definitely be a problem until the calf season opens is the way I understand it. If that's incorrect,then,I'm thorughly confused.
    You won't be the only one confused. With no calf season, you won't have a valid game seal, unless you have an adult validation. So essentially, you cannot hunt moose alone, during the closed calf season. You must have a valid game seal to hunt moose deer bear and wolves. Turkeys too but that's another thing... You would be restricted to party hunting only. I would go one step further and believe that if you were caught with a high powered rifle, without a valid game seal, not hunting in a party, you would have an awful problem as well. Unless you had a bear, deer or wolf seal....

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    Correct, that's why it would make sense to me to get a cow tag even if you don't intend on using it, it would make you legal before the calf season opens, but then again a bear tag would have the same effect
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    I buy a Bear license every year,anyway,for no other reason than an insurance policy against any illegality using rifles other than .22's. I hunt varmints and predators all year on friends farms,down here,even after Bear season opens on Sept.8. It helps with sheep and cattle losses and secures private property to hunt Deer. Everybody wins.
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    Its no different than hunting any other year. If you want to shoot a bull, you have to be near the bull tag.

    You can't go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because the calf season is open. Nor can you go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because you have a cow tag in your pocket.


    End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blargon View Post
    Its no different than hunting any other year. If you want to shoot a bull, you have to be near the bull tag.

    You can't go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because the calf season is open. Nor can you go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because you have a cow tag in your pocket.


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    Sorry but I beg to differ on that one.

    Before you could "legally" hunt calves, and be 2 or 2 hundred miles from an adult tag.

    Not so this year until the calf season opens. So therefore be in contact and close proximity to the adult tag holder at all times.

    Another option as I said prior and others added to is to have either a bear, wolf or deer tag as long as the season is open.

    Otherwise, have your gun or bow encased anytime you are not near the adult tag!! And be prepared to answer a lot of questions from a C. O. As to why, when, how ,where,etcetera.

    Before you could wander anywhere you wanted to ,anytime you wanted to scouting, back to camp, call of nature or just a drive , gun or bow not encased legally. Not so now.

    End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushman View Post
    Sorry but I beg to differ on that one.

    Before you could "legally" hunt calves, and be 2 or 2 hundred miles from an adult tag.

    Not so this year until the calf season opens. So therefore be in contact and close proximity to the adult tag holder at all times.

    Another option as I said prior and others added to is to have either a bear, wolf or deer tag as long as the season is open.

    Otherwise, have your gun or bow encased anytime you are not near the adult tag!! And be prepared to answer a lot of questions from a C. O. As to why, when, how ,where,etcetera.

    Before you could wander anywhere you wanted to ,anytime you wanted to scouting, back to camp, call of nature or just a drive , gun or bow not encased legally. Not so now.

    End of story.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by blargon View Post
    Its no different than hunting any other year. If you want to shoot a bull, you have to be near the bull tag.

    You can't go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because the calf season is open. Nor can you go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because you have a cow tag in your pocket.


    End of story.
    I agree. I think some guys are trying to justify expanding their range in search of a bull by having other tags. Makes no sense.
    If your groups intention is to get a bull having a cow tag doesn't make a difference as you still have to be close to the bull tag holder.
    Last edited by Obi-wanShinobi; August 21st, 2015 at 02:50 PM.

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