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August 26th, 2015, 07:11 AM
#31

Originally Posted by
Fox
I like a jacket but the wife is just getting into hunting and womens clothing is a pain to find and no mens clothes actually fit women properly so an orange vest for over her womens cut camo coat is all we can do on our budget and it is 100% legal.
How can you say it does not meet the requirements? Have you measured them? I bet on a 200lb guy most of the strap vests with the entire lower section in blaze orange would meet the requirements for 400 sq inches.
That being said, you only need blaze orange to be legal when there is an open gun season for deer, moose or elk, upland game hunting and small game hunting has no orange requirement legally speaking unless there is a big game gun season open.
They probably could put enough blaze on a strap but the in fact put a minimum it seems. Western bird hunters are the target market for them and they don't worry about copious amounts of blaze. My Browning Bird n Lite vest would not qualify, too much brown on it. There is more room in the strap adjustment based on size, not fabric usually.
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August 26th, 2015 07:11 AM
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August 26th, 2015, 07:25 AM
#32

Originally Posted by
terrym
They probably could put enough blaze on a strap but the in fact put a minimum it seems. Western bird hunters are the target market for them and they don't worry about copious amounts of blaze. My Browning Bird n Lite vest would not qualify, too much brown on it. There is more room in the strap adjustment based on size, not fabric usually.
That was by no means a knock, just a question as to if you measured it. 400 sq inches is not actually that much, I just grabbed a tape at my desk here and without any orange on the sides and as I sit in a T-shirt, the front of my chest is 300 sq inches, so just having a flap from my neck to my belt and side to side on both the front and back is 1.5x the legal requirement of blaze orange for big game hunting. If you toss in some orange on the size I go up even more.
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August 26th, 2015, 07:47 AM
#33
I haven't found a bird vest with 400 square inches. And I think that Browning Bird-n-Lite vest is one of the "blaziest" vests out there. Most upland hunting clothing won't qualify as the blaze portion is only on the shoulders and half the back, and doesn't cover 400 sq in. During big game gun seasons I wear a blaze orange shirt with my strap vest.
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August 26th, 2015, 07:57 AM
#34
Hunter orange strap vest.
So here is my new strap vest (a Q5 Upland hunter). Your looking at 286 sq. inches (measured, not including the hat). So with a vest underneath (early season), or a blaze jacket it should be fine.
vest in action.jpg
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August 26th, 2015, 08:37 AM
#35

Originally Posted by
zoli 16ga.
So here is my new strap vest (a Q5 Upland hunter). Your looking at 286 sq. inches (measured, not including the hat). So with a vest underneath (early season), or a blaze jacket it should be fine.
vest in action.jpg
No blaze on the front of it at all?
That is about right for just the back, that seems like it will work great for upland until the gun seasons for big game open up though.
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August 26th, 2015, 08:53 AM
#36
Only straps on the front, like a back pack. I ALWAYS wear an orange garment when hunting, so the front will have orange visable also.
see here - http://www.q5outdoorproducts.com/pro...and-bird-vest/
Don.
P.S - I gave it a good run for three days last weekend.....great vest!
Last edited by zoli 16ga.; August 26th, 2015 at 09:01 AM.
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August 26th, 2015, 09:41 AM
#37

Originally Posted by
zoli 16ga.
Only straps on the front, like a back pack. I ALWAYS wear an orange garment when hunting, so the front will have orange visable also.
see here -
http://www.q5outdoorproducts.com/pro...and-bird-vest/
Don.
P.S - I gave it a good run for three days last weekend.....great vest!
I wear an orange vest at minimum when hunting for anything but archery, waterfowl and turkey.
The crazy part though is that we do not wear orange for archery deer but bird hunters could be walking around shooting into the trees at any time you are deer hunting with a bow, how safe is that for you in the tree.
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August 26th, 2015, 09:46 AM
#38

Originally Posted by
welsh
I haven't found a bird vest with 400 square inches. And I think that Browning Bird-n-Lite vest is one of the "blaziest" vests out there. Most upland hunting clothing won't qualify as the blaze portion is only on the shoulders and half the back, and doesn't cover 400 sq in. During big game gun seasons I wear a blaze orange shirt with my strap vest.
I have a Browning upland jacket with a full blaze orange back,across the shoulders and half way down the front thatI use for everything. I've talked to several CO's and have never had it questioned,yet.

Originally Posted by
Fox
I wear an orange vest at minimum when hunting for anything but archery, waterfowl and turkey.
The crazy part though is that we do not wear orange for archery deer but bird hunters could be walking around shooting into the trees at any time you are deer hunting with a bow, how safe is that for you in the tree.
This is exactly why I don't use tree stands. Bird hunter swings on flushing birds and you're right in the line of fire.
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August 26th, 2015, 10:31 AM
#39
Has too much time on their hands
This thread brings to mind the saying, "No good deed goes unpunished."
Tom Goldsmith's article and the associated illustrated summary is certainly consistent with what many of us already understand to be the Province's standard for the implementation of the regulation. Tom Goldsmith certainly appears to have first done his homework.
There's no doubt that individual CO's have different interpretations of the regulation. I too have received varying advice from CO's on other matters.
There's also no doubt that CO's don't always choose to enforce the letter of the hunter orange regulation in all circumstances. Its no different than the OPP who generally choose not to ticket drivers doing 110 km/hr in a 100 km/hr zone.
The article does a service to Ontario hunters IMO.
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August 26th, 2015, 12:09 PM
#40

Originally Posted by
Fox
That being said, you only need blaze orange to be legal when there is an open gun season for deer, moose or elk, upland game hunting and small game hunting has no orange requirement legally speaking unless there is a big game gun season open.
So why would one not want to wear as much orange a possible while upland hunting? Sure its not the law but isn't just wiser to be as visible as possible. Do we really need another law stating that? Had occasion at Hullet where passed guys in full camo not even an orange cap hunting pheasant. Can honestly say it was hard to see them through the fence rows at distance. Just makes sense to me.
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