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October 31st, 2015, 09:51 AM
#11
Originally Posted by
chris lavoie
Usually when they put up an EBR it's already put in stone. I hope not, but....
Agreed. They usually only use the EBR to make it look like there was public consultation. It's merely a PR move. In all the years the OMNRF has used these,I've never seen them implement recommendations submitted by hunters....not even ONCE.
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October 31st, 2015 09:51 AM
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October 31st, 2015, 12:07 PM
#12
Hanging baits is a good idea. It definitely has an advantage in sexing bears. especially in a spring season but makes no sense whatsoever in a fall hunting scenario where everything is legal.
BUT
conventional baiting methods are fine too. there is nothing wrong with barrels.
I think the spring law should state that all other methods of baiting are acceptable BUT that a hanging bait MUST be present and utilized during a spring hunt when the bait is being hunted.
Also - I thought bears belong to all Ontarians not just the locals and the outfitters who would benefit from bait quantity limitations!
80% of the resident hunters come up from the south. Baiting only takes place on a weekly baiting run. a 45 gal barrel can be easily cleaned out in less then a week.
The bear population is not in any danger of a collapse so why all the restrictions now! WTF are they smoking in that MNR!
Last edited by SK33T3R; October 31st, 2015 at 12:09 PM.
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October 31st, 2015, 12:14 PM
#13
I like the idea of charging the pigs that don't clean up their baiting sites. I've seen too many bear outfitter "dumps" over the years on crown land eg. a half acre of plastic foam meat tray pieces, garbage bags, feed bags, and plastic wrap. They just build on the mess in years to follow.
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October 31st, 2015, 12:19 PM
#14
What's the reason for the change? Is it to sex the bear or reduce garbage, or is it something else? Sorry, newbie here isn't too clear of why it's being proposed but agreed any step backwards is not good.
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October 31st, 2015, 01:28 PM
#15
THIS IS YOUR smart government at work..............leave the fall hunt as it was..........it gives you a chance to see and pass on the bears you dont like
It isn,t how you do it,its how you did it
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October 31st, 2015, 01:41 PM
#16
Originally Posted by
toronto_guy
What's the reason for the change? Is it to sex the bear or reduce garbage, or is it something else? Sorry, newbie here isn't too clear of why it's being proposed but agreed any step backwards is not good.
Evidently,it's to prevent Bears from habituating baiting areas over a long period of time so they don't come into conflict with cottagers and other users. A hanging bait still gives a hunter ample time to check the sex of the Bear and to observe any cubs with her. Whether that's fact or not remains to be seen,but,it's in line with practices in other jurisdictions. Spot and stalk hunting is favored in western provinces and several US states. Baiting isn't the only way to hunt Blackies.
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October 31st, 2015, 01:56 PM
#17
http://www.ontariospringbearhunt.ca If you take a look through this site you will soon learn why. Its un informed knuckle heads like these folks who start this kinda stuff. Check out their FB page and see the remarks of people. They think that bear are lining up to bait piles to get shoot like one of those shooting games at carnivals. They are brainless and clueless and most of them wouldnt dare say anything directly to a hunter but the internet makes them instant know it alls with a place to spout off.
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October 31st, 2015, 02:30 PM
#18
Just txt one of bear hunting buddies. We have a camp we hunt and if this bait restrictions are implemented we are done bear hunting. We live in the southern part and can not bait every few days. This works for locals or guys who live close to bait sites. If this happens all bear hunting will be done by outfitters and locals only. More than half of bear hunters will be disadvantaged.
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October 31st, 2015, 03:29 PM
#19
Even though the barrels worked well locals were leaving them in the bush to junk up the place while outfitters were always obligated to remove any materials from a baitsite. And being outfitters it seemed they were always targeted by MNR when it came to enforcement of the terms and conditions of their licence simply because the CO's knew where outfitters stands were.
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October 31st, 2015, 03:44 PM
#20
Originally Posted by
sawbill
Even though the barrels worked well locals were leaving them in the bush to junk up the place while outfitters were always obligated to remove any materials from a baitsite.
I was wondering if the 'mess' left in the bush was an issue when they stopped the spring bear Hunt...ergo, is this being done to appease the environmentalists ?
Last edited by MikePal; October 31st, 2015 at 03:46 PM.