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September 16th, 2016, 07:31 AM
#101

Originally Posted by
yellow dog
I did that for you since I mean so much to you. LOL
Well thank you..looking forward to meeting you tomorrow for breakfast .
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September 16th, 2016 07:31 AM
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September 16th, 2016, 09:41 AM
#102
The thing with dog food is very simple.....the same shoe doesn't fit everyone and the sooner folks understand that then the quicker their dogs needs can be more tailored to their needs.
I feed PPP and Loyal performance to my retrievers. My competitive hounds were on a combination of kibble and raw as the draw on their endurance was significantly more. Even though retrievers work hard under extreme conditions it tends to be in a shorter duration. Comparing that to the needs of a hard running fox hound or dogs in similar situations is not the same.
Purina leads the companies in current research....whether you like purina or not doesn't matter. Their study on soft tissue injuries and percentage of protein fed is significant as it relates to our dogs.
The top Pros in USA and Canada feed PPP. They could probably feed anything they want as it is not a money issue, clients will pay for what they consider the best and that cost is minimal compared to training/trialing costs. Almost exclusively feed PPP.
If I had a pet I wouldn't feed the PPP just as an example. I would settle in on something like a 26/16 formula and find a food that minimizes stools and keeps coat condition and eye brightness observable and is affordable.
Any Vet worth their salt will tell you of the increase in observable allergies in dogs. Is it environmental or food caused?? Who knows but you can play around with different brands if this is affecting your dog.
Good to see a couple of you guys are getting together for breakfast.....
Last edited by krakadawn; September 16th, 2016 at 09:43 AM.
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September 16th, 2016, 09:48 AM
#103
^^^^^
Now that there, was a good post.
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
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September 16th, 2016, 02:15 PM
#104

Originally Posted by
Gemini898
They must have some deal with Royal Canin. I've noticed the "special diet" foods on the vet shelves are from Royal Canin too.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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September 16th, 2016, 02:16 PM
#105
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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September 16th, 2016, 02:44 PM
#106

Originally Posted by
Sharon
Oh my gosh! Be good boys ; I don't want to see your names in the paper.

It's a breakfast....I don't think it could turn into a drunken fracas......
Then again Mike was ex-army....
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
Proud member - Delta Waterfowl, CSSA, and OFAH
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September 16th, 2016, 03:27 PM
#107
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Well thank you..looking forward to meeting you tomorrow for breakfast .

Unfortunately my wife was called in this morning to work a shift for someone that has been off sick. Hopefully I'll make it to Kemptville next month to see the family and do some grouse hunting. Was really looking forward to the breakfast tomorrow morning with everyone.
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September 16th, 2016, 04:13 PM
#108

Originally Posted by
Gemini898
It's possible that I'm wrong, but I thought ingredients listed on the bag were in order of quantity in the food, similar to human food labels?
Correct, but this does not tell you the proportions of the ingredients.
A list of three ingredients could be 35%, 33%, and 32%, or it could be 97%, 2%, and 1%. The ingredients lists would be the same.
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"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
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September 17th, 2016, 06:26 AM
#109
Years ago, while hunting a power-house pointer on the prairies, we came back with a bone rack of a dog! We were recommended Royal Canin Gastro Hi Energy. We've been using it ever since while out there. Just speaking from our personal results with our dogs. We don't feed it all year long but.......
I'm not here to promote or disparage. Dog food is HUGE business. Bags, pics on bags, and numbers on bags have become somewhat misleading. I feed a product over a period of time and observe the results. Then, I draw conclusions for that particular dog because performance/results can vary from dog-to-dog, from seasonal demands, etc. If it works, I use it. For example, advertised protein and utile protein can be at opposite ends of the spectrum. Above and beyond this, some dogs will happily ingest saw-dust, while others are finicky and will eat a good product for awhile but then seem to get very picky. At this juncture simply changing the food often works but the research is reborn.
Last edited by Ugo; September 17th, 2016 at 06:40 AM.
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September 17th, 2016, 07:56 AM
#110
I have never considered changing foods throughout the year. He gets the same all year. He consumes more during hunting season but regulates himself. Is this something you always do? I see the logic though as hunting season can be intense for them.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.