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    Right now we guarantee that a sociopath will have no opposition when they start a shooting spree. This simple fact could be changed if the politicians agreed. If they were using fire bombs things would be harder....

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    It's a Dene indian reserve of 3000 people. I wouldn't suspect it to be a "quiet little town".

    The first two victims were the shooter's siblings. So there's likely a store we don't know with a pretty clear motive.

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    Expect the usual rhetoric to start this week. The shooter must have used a long gun of some type because they haven't released that info. Had it been a "black" gun it would be plastered in the media by now. Now how you can expect to remove hunting guns from a remote Indian reserve is beyond me so they will target those that aren't a menace instead and then people will feel good. Same thing happened after the Polytechnic massacre. I am in no way trying to downplay these tragedies, but we can easily predict how this will play out. Maybe they can include climate change to this, thats big these days.
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    One of the articles I read online this am said it was a shotgun. Can't find the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    Expect the usual rhetoric to start this week. The shooter must have used a long gun of some type because they haven't released that info. Had it been a "black" gun it would be plastered in the media by now. Now how you can expect to remove hunting guns from a remote Indian reserve is beyond me so they will target those that aren't a menace instead and then people will feel good. Same thing happened after the Polytechnic massacre. I am in no way trying to downplay these tragedies, but we can easily predict how this will play out. Maybe they can include climate change to this, thats big these days.
    You're right. The reality is that had the gun been an AR of some kind and this dad event had taken place in southern Ontario, the dialogue would already be different.

    Trudeau, barely 3 months into his term, is possibly facing his first defining moment. It just so happens that this occurred in a largely first Nations community with higher-than-the-national-average rates of suicide. Trudeau's political "out" in this case is to make grand announcements about major new investments and programs in First Nations health care, social services and community economic development, as follow through on his election promises surrounding rebuilding the relationship with First Nations.
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    Yup. And trust me they will spin that quickly and loud. I do find some of the facts interesting in the reports so far. They have said there were 900 students in this school and 100 teachers. A 9/1 teacher pupil ratio seems way above normal, maybe someone can correct me. Also that school looks every bit as nice as you would find around here so I'm not sure if under funding education is the root cause of a tragedy like this? I'm thinking alcohol and drug use, broken family units are going to be the case. I have to wonder how the money given gets spent? Harper had introduced legislation to make band expenditures transparent but that is one if the first things JT is reversing. Not sure how hiding how tax money gets spent is progressive. In fact it stinks and implies collusion with people trying to hide things but that did bring votes I guess.
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    So with a 17 year old in custody for the shooting, one could draw the conclusion that Dayne Fontaine's twin brother was the shooter.
    Motive is always a mystery: Was it homicide-suicide pack, if so, why involve the school? Was it the school and the other two brothers attempted to stop it? May it was the former and the shooter couldn't do himself in, so he went to the school to see if he could draw the RCMP into taking him out. It will be interesting to see what exactly was behind the whole affair. Then, of course, there is the matter of having access to the gun that was used. In a northern communities, where there is hunting, and predators abound, improper storage is not likely to be that much of an issue. The kid may even have had a Minors Licence. What could possibly have prevented this sad tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    So with a 17 year old in custody for the shooting, one could draw the conclusion that Dayne Fontaine's twin brother was the shooter.
    I'll disagree with this conclusion. If identifying the twin would lead to identifying the perpetrator, that would be a no-go under the YCJA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    Expect the usual rhetoric to start this week. The shooter must have used a long gun of some type because they haven't released that info. Had it been a "black" gun it would be plastered in the media by now. Now how you can expect to remove hunting guns from a remote Indian reserve is beyond me so they will target those that aren't a menace instead and then people will feel good. Same thing happened after the Polytechnic massacre. I am in no way trying to downplay these tragedies, but we can easily predict how this will play out. Maybe they can include climate change to this, thats big these days.
    I'm not so sure I agree,terry. The Liberals may be willing to keep their collective traps slammed shut vis-a-vie gun control because it will open them up to being forced to meet the First Nations poverty/corruption/drug abuse catastrophe,head on, across the entire nation. Especially for Liberals,they're loathe to open that "racism" can of worms and have it explode in their face. Believe me,before they ever point the fingers at us,they better be prepared for the shyte storm that will surely follow.
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    Maybe just maybe it is time this first Nation situation should be ripped wide open .I am a card carrying metis Aboriginal status .I don't get any of the benefits hunting rights or tax breaks ..Mayby it's time the whole deal was put before the people of Canada and worked out in a fair and equally way. One law one rule one people. CANADIAN .. this is just a opinion. My two cents ..D

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