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January 24th, 2016, 08:45 PM
#21

Originally Posted by
dutchhunter
Maybe just maybe it is time this first Nation situation should be ripped wide open .I am a card carrying metis Aboriginal status .I don't get any of the benefits hunting rights or tax breaks ..Mayby it's time the whole deal was put before the people of Canada and worked out in a fair and equally way. One law one rule one people. CANADIAN .. this is just a opinion. My two cents ..D
they already have special status. Why would they ever give that up? But I do agree the present system makes no sense. Paying off people to be isolated on remote reserves doesn't exactly work does it? Yes, it's time to assimilate them into the modern world.
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January 24th, 2016 08:45 PM
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January 25th, 2016, 08:29 AM
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January 25th, 2016, 09:37 AM
#23

Originally Posted by
dutchhunter
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Mayby it's time the whole deal was put before the people of Canada and worked out in a fair and equally way. One law one rule one people. CANADIAN .. this is just a opinion. My two cents ..D
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the problem is that the people don't know how much is wrong there; e.g. domestic violence, drug abuse, corruption etc.
I'm pretty sure most folks up there and down here would like to change things to the better, but that would require publicly showing the problem (politically a very high risk).
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January 25th, 2016, 09:51 AM
#24
No it mean giving them what they are owed, and no government wants to do that.
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January 25th, 2016, 09:58 AM
#25

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Assimilate, you mean like the school controversy?

Well how about we live up to our end of the bargain, and give them all the land we signed treaties (legal binding contract) for so long ago.

Then give them no more money, but let them run their land as they see fit.

Fat chance of that.

Discuss.

Have you ever heard of The White Paper on Indian Affairs written by The Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development? Google it and take a read. It's brilliant and was instantly suppressed by the government of the day which was surprising considering it was written by Jean Chretien. Political Correctness was rearing it's ugly head during the Pierre Trudeau regime,too. It's a classic example of liberalist systemic policy paralyses caused by PC.
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January 25th, 2016, 10:13 AM
#26

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
No it mean giving them what they are owed, and no government wants to do that.
...and what are they owed???
The government has been pouring billions into indian and northern affairs and the problems still exist.
It's not a money problem its a culture and isolation issue. No hope no future.
The last serious attempt to try to resolve these problems is now referred to as the "residential school system".
So please excuse the rest of Canada from trying to actively to "help", we didn't get a lot of thanks last time.
This is a native problem and they need to resolve it themselves.
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January 25th, 2016, 10:23 AM
#27

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
...and what are they owed???
This is a native problem and they need to resolve it themselves.
Exactly! Maybe,it's time we simply keep our noses out of it.....completely....meaning no more federal tax money,either,not one nickle,ever,seeing as how we made such a mess of things and it's all our fault,right?
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January 25th, 2016, 10:31 AM
#28

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Exactly! Maybe,it's time we simply keep our noses out of it.....completely....meaning no more federal tax money,either,not one nickle,ever,seeing as how we made such a mess of things and it's all our fault,right?
I agree , but wait for the railway lines to be shut down / highways /bridges .ect. The system is broke but I don't believe any government will have the stomach for it nor do I believe the FN want things to change.
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January 25th, 2016, 11:09 AM
#29

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
...and what are they owed???
The government has been pouring billions into indian and northern affairs and the problems still exist.
It's not a money problem its a culture and isolation issue. No hope no future.
The last serious attempt to try to resolve these problems is now referred to as the "residential school system".
So please excuse the rest of Canada from trying to actively to "help", we didn't get a lot of thanks last time.
This is a native problem and they need to resolve it themselves.
What are they owed... how about 25% of Canada that they have signed contracts for, with the ruling government of the day.
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January 25th, 2016, 11:23 AM
#30
Maybe we should all go back to the countries we immigrated from right? How long do you think they would survive without us? Go back through time and people, societies were overthrown by war non stop. Still happens and never will stop. Like our brilliant PM likes to say. It's 2015. Time for "everybody" to take some responsibility for themselves and to join the modern world.
Then again maybe DiCaprio, Bono or Niel Younge will solve all the problems right?
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