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January 1st, 2017, 10:11 PM
#21
Well said Be2Man.
I've always thought that bills for health care services should be sent out to patients so they know what things cost.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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January 1st, 2017 10:11 PM
# ADS
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January 1st, 2017, 11:27 PM
#22
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Noseyarentcha
She would not have made the drive, besides, I like my vet and I trust him. We have developed a friendship over the last few years. He is my vet and my friend. Cannot put a price on that besides, I like supporting a fellow Canadian....when I can.
I have liked and developed a very good relationship with my last 2 vets one being an American and the most recent a Canadian. We all like to support Canadian if possible but affordability rules depending on ones income and unknown cost of an emergency situation. In an emergency type of situation the cost from a Canadian vet versus an American vet could set you back thousands of dollars versus hundreds of dollars when using an American vet. I have had this happen a few times and the Canadian vet would of put me in the poor house. That's great you were able to find a good Canadian vet Noseyarentcha and suited to your income bracket.
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January 1st, 2017, 11:49 PM
#23
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
be2man
I guess things vary depending on where you are in the Province or Country. I find our area which varies from urban to rural to have a wide range of prices and services from discount and low cost to the highest prices tending to be at the Vets the richest neighbourhoods. The fact that 60% of people in Ottawa work for the Government in some form or another and have guaranteed good jobs and salaries and benefits and pensions may affect what the Vets think they can charge.
I lived 30 minutes south of Ottawa in very small town of 2,500 people. The locals were not high income earners but slowly the area was becoming a bedroom community to Ottawa. The large club I was affiliated with had close to 100 members all having working dogs. We found it very difficult to find a vet that charged a fair price on all vaccinations, health check examination, meds, dewormers and surgeries. We basically searched all small town vets in the area to provide our club with a service that we were willing to pay a fair price. We couldn't find one which led to many of us going just over the border for a short 40 minute drive. Very few of our club members were Government workers and most were from rural areas and had a minimum of six working huskies.
I currently live just outside a City that has a population of almost 75,000 people and my current Canadian vet charges almost exactly the same price range on my previous vet in the U.S. My vet and I have had some really interesting conversations on what he charges on a variety of his services. In fact I get the impression he is a lone wolf while other clinics charge much more in the area. I am very thankful I have him. He is very well respected in the community.
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January 1st, 2017, 11:52 PM
#24
I am very thankful I have him. He is very well respected in the community.
That is a very nice comment YD.
I am happy you have a good vet.
My attitude towards you depends upon how you have treated me.
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January 2nd, 2017, 08:46 AM
#25
The foxhound clubs also met the same fate. The monopoly , collusion caught up to us. They all charge the same fee, no exceptions or they are outside the provincial protocol. Fortunately two health unit still provides rabies, once a year $20.00 cash no questions asked.
Most owners know our dogs better than anyone, we spend hours per day with them. I pick up stools as a minimum twice per day. Who is off their feed , etc. There are many , many exceptional vets, I will gladly pay them for their expertise when required . I prefer a vet with large animal experience, they know when you have livestock , you also end up with dead stock. I travelled one day with a vet who worked with the vets and Agriculture Canada on just this policy. The OVA currently have a group looking at this issue. I believe one of the vets from the clinic I use is on the committee. People will pay when it comes to pets, I know some friends ,had their guinea pig on anti-depressants. LOL We live in a great country, enjoy everyday.
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January 2nd, 2017, 08:55 AM
#26
If you are really wondering why? Draft proposal of the Ontario Veterinary Medical Association. The other side of the equation lots of people like to sue professionals over anything.
https://www.ovma.org/assets/1/6/Disp...sultation1.pdf
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January 2nd, 2017, 09:59 AM
#27
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Stuart22
The foxhound clubs also met the same fate. The monopoly , collusion caught up to us. They all charge the same fee, no exceptions or they are outside the provincial protocol. Fortunately two health unit still provides rabies, once a year $20.00 cash no questions asked.
Most owners know our dogs better than anyone, we spend hours per day with them. I pick up stools as a minimum twice per day. Who is off their feed , etc. There are many , many exceptional vets, I will gladly pay them for their expertise when required . I prefer a vet with large animal experience, they know when you have livestock , you also end up with dead stock. I travelled one day with a vet who worked with the vets and Agriculture Canada on just this policy. The OVA currently have a group looking at this issue. I believe one of the vets from the clinic I use is on the committee. People will pay when it comes to pets, I know some friends ,had their guinea pig on anti-depressants. LOL We live in a great country, enjoy everyday.
Well said.
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January 2nd, 2017, 10:29 AM
#28

Originally Posted by
Stuart22
Most owners know our dogs better than anyone, we spend hours per day with them. I pick up stools as a minimum twice per day. Who is off their feed , etc. There are many , many exceptional vets, I will gladly pay them for their expertise when required . I prefer a vet with large animal experience, they know when you have livestock , you also end up with dead stock.
That's the rub....most of the drugs used in Livestock deworming are the same or interchangeable for deworming pets. They are readily available at feeds store and places like TSC.... walk two rows over to the pet care isle and the same drugs are no longer available for your dog and require a vets permission to use them. There doesn't appear to be any viable logic to this.
A side note...I noticed that last time I picked up drugs in the states for my dog they required blood work....when I paid the bill I noticed that I only paid $18 for the the lab tech to draw the blood. There was no 'vet' charge. I have never seen this on a bill here, it's always the minimum office 'visit' charge .
And the drug Rimadyl was less than 50% the cost up here.
Last edited by MikePal; January 3rd, 2017 at 03:52 AM.
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January 2nd, 2017, 07:40 PM
#29

Originally Posted by
Sharon
Well said Be2Man.
I've always thought that bills for health care services should be sent out to patients so they know what things cost.
This is of course OT, but OHIP posts everything online. You'd be amazed how little Drs are paid for their services sometimes.
I am very please with my country vet, the founder only works 2 days a week now, the rest of the team is pretty good and they don't charge arm and a leg. They even do things for free sometimes, imagine that!
Remember, city vets have higher running costs too, everything is more expensive from office to techs.... However, the work ethics is entirely different issue and is not location specific. I am talking about unnecessary treatments and things like that...
"The dog is Small Munsterlander, the gun is Beretta."
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed" A. Saint-Exupery.
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January 4th, 2017, 10:06 AM
#30
and here's the link to the previous thread om the same subj
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...deworming-dogs
"The dog is Small Munsterlander, the gun is Beretta."
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed" A. Saint-Exupery.