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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    Latest news on CBC...handgun shooting.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...file-1.3959581
    He used his own registered handguns? There's one for the books. Has anyone noticed that the common denominator in every one of occurrences like this,there were people close to the offender who knew they were dealing with serious mental health issues and said and did nothing? Pick any one of these incidents,anywhere,from Dawson College to Sandy Hook. It's really amazing that if someone had have said something,anything,to a family doctor or the local Police.these incidents may have been entirely preventable.
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    Criminals are not typically known for their IQ., wisdom and deep philosophical thoughts.

    Serious mental health issues? I missed that in the article.

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    Beg to differ Skypilot.

    Criminals are often very intelligent and unlike many others driven, driven to succeed. At the extreme end, this is evidenced by organized crime. And the fact is, they usually have the upper hand. By that I mean, despite all the resources at LEOs disposal ( $$, Technology, Man Power, "Harvard" grads working for them). LEO can't take them down. How long and how many resources did it take to take down.

    Cappone
    Bin Ladin
    Cappo
    So many others that could be named..................

    Even here in Ontario, we have gangs that continually and consistently outfox leo despite LEOs huge advantages. On the other end ( the low end), your garden variety con man, can go for years fleecing high brows nine ways to sunday.

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    I'd say "criminals are often" vs "criminals are not typically" is the fulcrum.

    I would say that the smaller percentage of high level criminals have higher quality accomplices and on staff counselors.

    Most high level criminals(civilian organized and governmental)wouldn't commit murder using a handgun with their own name on it.

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    I think when someone sets out to commit a massacre like this they are also intending on either being killed on the spot or dieing in prison. I doubt they care about anything at that point.
    Last edited by terrym; February 1st, 2017 at 09:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skypilot View Post
    Criminals are not typically known for their IQ., wisdom and deep philosophical thoughts.

    Serious mental health issues? I missed that in the article.
    The trouble is, no one has explored the mental illness angle yet, MSM finds it easier to use "terrorist" or "Trump supporting, right wing".

    Like Jben, I have to disagree with your assessment however. Look up the terms sociopath, and psychopath. The majority of criminals who's behavior could be described as such, often fall in the higher IQ category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebulldog View Post
    The trouble is, no one has explored the mental illness angle yet, MSM finds it easier to use "terrorist" or "Trump supporting, right wing".

    Like Jben, I have to disagree with your assessment however. Look up the terms sociopath, and psychopath. The majority of criminals who's behavior could be described as such, often fall in the higher IQ category.
    True, his mental state and his statements will help determine if there is a terrorist component and that hasn't been revealed yet.

    Most common criminals simply don't indicate high levels of intelligence in my experience. Sure, there are niche crimes were criminals indicate high levels of thought, reasoning, etc. but the common criminal just doesn't indicate high levels of thought.

    When they are successful, they simply tend to repeat that or duplicate that success without much strategic planning.

    Where I have seen higher levels of intelligence, reasoning and thought is, as one would expect, towards higher types of sophisticated crime and is reflected in our clearance rates or at least in the man hours required to close. Things like serial murder, financial crimes and so on come to mind. Those crimes are generally fewer than common crime which is done generally by less intelligent.

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    Lol. One of my favourite sayings here at the Courthouse:

    "You never see the smart ones here"
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    Heard them talking about this on 680 this morning and they said the shooter was a hunter.....not sure what that has to do with anything.

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    gofundme.com raised almost 40000$ to support victim's families

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