Fed Issue #41 - Ottawa to apologize and pay terrorist Khadr

[Woodsman]

Those of you thank think that Speer's widow has a claim on the money do you realize she has never had a judgement against him?

[Woodsman]

Dythbringer although I agree with most of your points the previous Federal & Supreme court rulings almost guaranteed a win for Omar Khadr.
As for the amount????
But how much more money should the taxpayer spend fighting this?
Harper already spent over $100,000,000 fighting not to bring him back which is why we were in this position.

[mosquito]

Harper already spent over $100,000,000 fighting not to bring him back which is why we were in this position.

Site evidence for the spending.

Evidence for the fact the SCC said his rights had been violated and in another decision that the SCC couldn't meddle in foreign policy to have him sent back to Canada is available. Appeals and waiting for a court decision could have delayed and possibly reduced (or increased ... and then you just appeal again) the money for years. $19M for autism he votes against, more money for veterans benefits... not happening under the Liebrals, tax cuts .... nope, just tax increases and scrapping tax credits like kids fitness and arts....

The fact is the Liberal's seemed to really want to pay him and they did, they throw Canadian citizens and the Charter of rights under the bus any chance they get but not a murderous dog like him. It seems clear that in this case they decided they wanted to insult the US and it's military, award the al-Queada family of Canada (maybe his sister needed a better lawyer in Turkey) and show their allegiance .. Hmmm I wonder if the other terrorist supporting Omar.... Omar Alghabra was pushing the idea. We know he is at the Organization of Islamic Cooperation right now but any bets it was his push? It is good to have an observer there ... but can we trust this observer? We know his fawning over another rabid dog, Arafat, after his death ... and there have been problematic statements about no fly lists, Hamas and Hezbullah.
http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2017/07/10/c...c-cooperation/

[Dythbringer]

Woodsman,

Those of you thank think that Speer's widow has a claim on the money do you realize she has never had a judgement against him?

Actually she has a judgement in the US against him and is in the process of petitioning a Canadian court to honour that judgement. Our position is if he truly was repentant as he claims he is, he would voluntarily give the money to Speer's widow (actions speak louder than words).

Dythbringer although I agree with most of your points the previous Federal & Supreme court rulings almost guaranteed a win for Omar Khadr.
As for the amount????
But how much more money should the taxpayer spend fighting this?
Harper already spent over $100,000,000 fighting not to bring him back which is why we were in this position.

The Federal rulings were on whether Khadr could bring his civil suit to court and the SCC ruling was whether the government violated his rights. I agree the civil suit probably would have been lost. I don't think anyone is arguing that point. However, because the government rolled over on it's back, like a newly neutered dog, for Khadr because it believes settling is a better way to deal with this than a court case and they wanted this to go away. I disagree and I think they should fight it in court until the very last. I am ok with a judge's decision if it went against us on this matter. I am not ok with giving a person who has never face the consequences of his "alleged" criminal actions in a Canadian court (yes I am talking about High Treason and I acknowledge your point about the three previous governments failure to bring him up on charges because it was a political nightmare and all three govern) a hefty cheque and a hug without a fight. And according to this article 71% of Canadians polled agree that the government shouldn't have settled out of court (http://nationalpost.com/opinion/john...d-61f9f586ca59). Now the views start to digress as more questions about Khadr get asked but the majority of Canadians have the belief that settling out of court with Khadr was not the right move.

I don't think Harper spent $100 million. The total for the court proceedings is $5 million (per the government's numbers in the news conference) for the past 15 years of court battles. Let's stop trying to lay the blame with Harper over this. Chretien and Martin did squat about Khadr when they were the PM when this entire mess started (actually no government dealt with his family which is where this mess started). Laying this mess all on Harper opens the door for the argument that Harper was following the previous PM's lead on how to deal with this guy. No politician wanted to touch this guy because he was/is toxic and now the Liberals are trying to clean up a dog's breakfast but in my opinion, they did it the wrong way.

Dyth

[trimmer21]

I believe that $100M figure is a liberal pipe dream,too,right up there with the LGR only costing $2M and the "carbon tax" is a good thing for the economy. This will be another debacle for which we'll need to hold the Liberals to account. Keep up the good work,Liberals. The hole you're digging is getting deeper and deeper.

[Dythbringer]

I believe that $100M figure is a liberal pipe dream,too,right up there with the LGR only costing $2M and the "carbon tax" is a good thing for the economy. This will be another debacle for which we'll need to hold the Liberals to account. Keep up the good work,Liberals. The hole you're digging is getting deeper and deeper.

This debacle is a result of numerous failures of numerous politicians and civil servants. As we can't put all the blame on Harper, we also can't put all the blame on Chretien or Martin. There is enough blame to go around.

[skypilot]

Those of you thank think that Speer's widow has a claim on the money do you realize she has never had a judgement against him?

A judge ruled against him on her behalf in Utah I believe for 134million and she/lawyers were asking Canada(an Ontario Judge)to freeze any assets.
Likely why the libs were in a panic to rush the issuing of the check.

Pretty sorry government folks if true.

[glen]

I'm surprised they didn't pay him and try to keep it unknown.

Why would they rush payment to avoid the claim by the widow?

[skypilot]

Maybe they were rushing the payment before she could have it legally frozen for a review of her claim against him.

If the liberals will lie, cheat and backroom deal Canadian citizens(and they do) they wouldn't hesitate to slight an American war widow out of money they gave to a Canadian terrorist.

[trimmer21]

Maybe they were rushing the payment before she could have it legally frozen for a review of her claim against him.

If the liberals will lie, cheat and backroom deal Canadian citizens(and they do) they wouldn't hesitate to slight an American war widow out of money they gave to a Canadian terrorist.

Hence my reasoning for the after hours transfer on the down low. POOF!! Done deal.