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    For anyone that may be interested in smokeless muzzleloading, PR Bullet in Manitoba is offering a conversion kit that will allow most Savage center fire rifles to be changed over to a smokeless, and back to center fire again.

    http://www.prbullet.com/savage215.htm
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    Interesting and relatively inexpensive. I had one built by him on a 700 action. I sold the gun ultimately because it was really no better than the savage - 200 yard gun. As with the savage the sabots are the fail point.

    I will say this though, I'd like a crack at another one of his builds knowing what I know now....

    Plenty of guys in the states have no issues to 300 yards with sabot builds - comes down to powder choices more than anything.

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    I have been shooting a Savage smokeless 50 cal, model 10ML for years. It is an amazing rifle. I was fortunate to take 2 bull moose (and a number of deer) with it. One moose was quartering away at 130 yards and the other was broadside at 160 yards. Both animals had complete pass through.

    The only downside to them is they are just like reloading in that you must be very careful in your powder measurements and loading. Black powder is a little more tolerant to errors, whereas smokeless the results are catastrophic. I would never go back to black powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskyhunter View Post
    I have been shooting a Savage smokeless 50 cal, model 10ML for years. It is an amazing rifle. I was fortunate to take 2 bull moose (and a number of deer) with it. One moose was quartering away at 130 yards and the other was broadside at 160 yards. Both animals had complete pass through.

    The only downside to them is they are just like reloading in that you must be very careful in your powder measurements and loading. Black powder is a little more tolerant to errors, whereas smokeless the results are catastrophic. I would never go back to black powder.
    You have pre-measured loads ready to go then eh, I would assume dependent on powder your accuracy would be all over the map the same as any smokeless centerfire load, 0.5gr less and you missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    You have pre-measured loads ready to go then eh, I would assume dependent on powder your accuracy would be all over the map the same as any smokeless centerfire load, 0.5gr less and you missed.
    Yes sir accurate powder measure nets tight groups. I have invested in a decent grain scale & all powder is pre-measured. I use 44gr of AA5744. I measure up about 50 vials in the pre-season & usually have plenty of extras left over...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    You have pre-measured loads ready to go then eh, I would assume dependent on powder your accuracy would be all over the map the same as any smokeless centerfire load, 0.5gr less and you missed.
    They are a little more forgiving then that at 50 cal size. 1 grain may be an issue but honestly going in the bush with a dozen viles and bullets is not hard to carry.

    Accuracy from these at 100 yards rival your very accurate CF.

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