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    In this bill.they are giving the RCMP more power to prohibit firearms..They are looking to ban AR15's so I have heard..How many are there in Canada??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro66 View Post
    In this bill.they are giving the RCMP more power to prohibit firearms..They are looking to ban AR15's so I have heard..How many are there in Canada??
    Likely,not that many,but,that's not the point. The RCMP should never be given a mandate to make law,arbitrarily,without accountability to Parliament. There must be a system of checks and balances. If the RCMP can do that with firearms,they can do that with anything they don't happen to approve of and there goes democracy.
    Society needs to stop bending to the will of the delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Those liberal idiots couldn't organize a one-car funeral and they're planning on mass discrimination against a segment of society violating their privacy rights on the off-chance someone might be depressed? You're absolutely right. What could possibly go wrong?
    You mention privacy rights... we still have those under Canadian law???

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro66 View Post
    In this bill.they are giving the RCMP more power to prohibit firearms..They are looking to ban AR15's so I have heard..How many are there in Canada??
    1. It's not clear that the RCMP will actually get more powers. The promise to have the RCMP make classification decisions was in the platform & was a response to the previous government limiting that power. So this could be either new powers for the RCMP or simply a return to the pre-C42 status quo. We won't know until the bill is tabled.

    2. The idea that there will be an AR-15 ban comes from Don Martin using that as an example of how the RCMP's powers *could* be used, as an argument that most Canadians would find that reasonable. Some of the CGN crowd apparently struggle with spoken English & took this as an indication that the bill will ban the AR-15.

    Note that if the bill simply restores the status quo pre-C42, the RCMP would not actually be able to ban the AR-15 anyway.

    My view is that It's very unlikely the bill will give the RCMP arbitrary powers to prohibit firearms, for obvious reasons.

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    I disagree Welsh. Trudough can give the RCMP these powers fully knowing that his hand picked female leader will do his bidding and take the flack away from himself. He will just say it's the RCMP not himself. When the RCMP does something wrong there really isn't much you can do.
    It's trendy right now to attack black guns so all left leaning governments will seize the moment while emotions are high. I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of restricted get reclassified to prohibited. Seems half the guns in gunshops are black guns. Most gunclubs are huge into restricted and 3 gun games. This will start a cheet storm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    I disagree Welsh.
    That it's unlikely the RCMP will be granted the power to make arbitrary classifications?

    We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    That it's unlikely the RCMP will be granted the power to make arbitrary classifications?

    We shall see.

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    Even if he were to include an advisory committee it would be a hand picked group of antis. The RCMP gives him better cover.
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    I think we should just sit quietly and give them enough rope to hang themselves. Never interrupt the enemy when they're about to blow their own brains out. Personally,I want to make more failed Liberal Party gun control a huge election issue in 2019.
    Society needs to stop bending to the will of the delusional.

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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gun-...2018-1.4581821

    "The bill could also beef up screening of people who already own guns, allowing a continuous eligibility evaluation that would flag criminal behaviour as grounds for a potential investigation into their firearm ownership."

    Might this be the 10-gun threshold for monitoring that's been talked about for years?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninepointer View Post
    Might this be the 10-gun threshold for monitoring that's been talked about for years?...
    We won't know anything until tomorrow, but I think it's probably simply tightening the continuous eligibility screening that already exists.

    Now, that wouldn't typically require actual legislation, because the cops have a lot of discretion. So it may be that there will be either minimum requirements put into the Act or new associated regulations.

    A 10 gun threshold was in the original C-68 as the threshold that would trigger the police inspection power, but I think the threshold is now not formally defined.

    Another possibility is that this refers to ongoing screening for things like patterns that suggest straw buying, etc.



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