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Thread: Ottawa Eyes Tougher Screening of Gun Owners for Mental Health, Violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninepointer View Post
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gun-...2018-1.4581821

    "The bill could also beef up screening of people who already own guns, allowing a continuous eligibility evaluation that would flag criminal behaviour as grounds for a potential investigation into their firearm ownership."

    Might this be the 10-gun threshold for monitoring that's been talked about for years?...
    You need a registry for that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    You need a registry for that one.
    Not necessarily? I've added a few words here that show's what I mean? "The bill could also beef up screening of people who already are licensed to own guns, allowing a continuous eligibility evaluation that would flag criminal behaviour as grounds for a potential investigation into their firearm ownership."

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    It could also mandate a periodic review in addition to continuous eligibility screening.

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    I think it's important to address concerns related to firearms and public safety. The idea of enhanced background checks and reassessing license eligibility for gun owners seems like a step in the right direction to ensure responsible gun ownership.
    It's good to see discussions happening at the national level to tackle issues like gun and gang violence. Stats like the rise in firearm-related homicides and thefts are concerning, and it's crucial to take action.
    I've been doing some research on a related topic lately, specifically about. It's an interesting concept that's worth exploring in the context of mental health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klemmantin View Post
    I think it's important to address concerns related to firearms and public safety. The idea of enhanced background checks and reassessing license eligibility for gun owners seems like a step in the right direction to ensure responsible gun ownership.
    It's good to see discussions happening at the national level to tackle issues like gun and gang violence. Stats like the rise in firearm-related homicides and thefts are concerning, and it's crucial to take action.
    I've been doing some research on a related topic lately, specifically about. It's an interesting concept that's worth exploring in the context of mental health.
    Its an ancient thread...but:

    With regard to firearms-related homicides, most of these are drugs and gangs related with unregistered handguns.
    2018 - the latest year I can find the info on, 74.5% with handguns, sawed of shotguns/rifles and automatic weapons, 25.4% with long guns.

    In the context of mental health, the money should be spent on mental health resources. Trying to assess the mental health of all of Canada's gunowners on a continuous basis via enhanced background checks? You've got to be kidding with that.

    If you really care about firearm related homicides - lets put the money where it will do some good: guns and gangs units and mental health.
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    Mental health and shootings are always left out they blame the gun instead.

    Mental health up
    Shootings up
    Suicide up

    Legal drug prescription way up

    They can cause brain zaps , memory loss thoughts of Suicide and harm to others. All stated on the nih .
    Any coincidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by werner.reiche View Post
    Its an ancient thread...but:

    With regard to firearms-related homicides, most of these are drugs and gangs related with unregistered handguns.
    2018 - the latest year I can find the info on, 74.5% with handguns, sawed of shotguns/rifles and automatic weapons, 25.4% with long guns.

    In the context of mental health, the money should be spent on mental health resources. Trying to assess the mental health of all of Canada's gunowners on a continuous basis via enhanced background checks? You've got to be kidding with that.

    If you really care about firearm related homicides - lets put the money where it will do some good: guns and gangs units and mental health.
    Canadian gun owners have been and will continue to be checked on a continious basis as the Firearms interest person will pop up on CPIC if a Police occurrence has been written where an arrest or call has been attended and the mental health of the gun owner has been brought up. The gun owner is then flagged by the system and a possible secondary investigation could be conducted by an investigator, that could result in a recommendation by the investigator to the Chief Firearms officer for a revocation of a licenses. If there is an appeal, then a Crown brief is submitted and a Firerams Hearing held in front of a Provincial Court Judge to determine if the gun owner falls within section 5 of the Firearms Act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Canadian gun owners have been and will continue to be checked on a continious basis as the Firearms interest person will pop up on CPIC if a Police occurrence has been written where an arrest or call has been attended and the mental health of the gun owner has been brought up. The gun owner is then flagged by the system and a possible secondary investigation could be conducted by an investigator, that could result in a recommendation by the investigator to the Chief Firearms officer for a revocation of a licenses. If there is an appeal, then a Crown brief is submitted and a Firerams Hearing held in front of a Provincial Court Judge to determine if the gun owner falls within section 5 of the Firearms Act.
    Problem is who is qualified to do these background checks?
    if the last 3 years have shown Canadians anything it's the full system from Government to RCMP to Provincial Police to local Police are all operating well outside the letter of the law

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    The thread is now five years old. In that time, for all the Liberals' talk, the only change is the background check is not limited to the previous five years but the entire lifetime of the applicant, an insignificant change if you already have a license.

    The Liberals talk a great deal about gun control but don't get much done. They said they "banned" so-called assault rifles and promised compensation. Three years later every single one of these rifles that government said are "too dangerous for people to own" are still in the hands of the people who own them.

    They talked about a handgun ban but decided to "freeze" them which prompted a buying frenzy. The result is there are now more legally-owned handguns in private hands in Canada than ever before in our history. There is also no approved mechanism to turn them in or dispose of them when an owner dies, leaves the country or decides to get out of the sport.

    Other countries have managed to achieve both a handgun and semi-auto ban with compensation programs and yet the Trudeau Liberals are so staggeringly incompetent they can't manage either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    The thread is now five years old. In that time, for all the Liberals' talk, the only change is the background check is not limited to the previous five years but the entire lifetime of the applicant, an insignificant change if you already have a license.

    The Liberals talk a great deal about gun control but don't get much done. They said they "banned" so-called assault rifles and promised compensation. Three years later every single one of these rifles that government said are "too dangerous for people to own" are still in the hands of the people who own them.

    They talked about a handgun ban but decided to "freeze" them which prompted a buying frenzy. The result is there are now more legally-owned handguns in private hands in Canada than ever before in our history. There is also no approved mechanism to turn them in or dispose of them when an owner dies, leaves the country or decides to get out of the sport.

    Other countries have managed to achieve both a handgun and semi-auto ban with compensation programs and yet the Trudeau Liberals are so staggeringly incompetent they can't manage either.
    Other than the UK,what other countries had a "buy back",was it effective and what were the electoral implications?
    Society needs to stop bending to the will of the delusional.

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