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    Hey Guys, looking into planning a destination hunt for '19 or '20. Right now the thought is either east for Moose (Quebec, Newfoundland) or west for Elk (Sask, AB). Thought I would put this out there to see if anyone has any experiences they can share or, recommendations from similar trips.

    Pro's/con's of bow vs. rifle, driving vs. flying. Anything else that might shed light on embarking on this sort of adventure.

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    Hopefully someone has some tips, im interested as well. Specifically the best way to get meat home from out west.

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    An easy and productive hunt for a first Western hunt is Pronghorn Antelope in Wyoming. Tags are easy to get and so is access on private land for minimal trespass fees. Not an easy archery hunt though.
    We drove out and had our meat cut and frozen out there. Travelled home on dry ice ( butchers sell it ) and was frozen solid after 2 days on the road.
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    To hunt in Western Canada a non-resident needs a guide or someone who has this special license to take non-residents. Now if your talking about hunting the western states, its a lot easier depending on how far you want to drive lol. You can fly and mail the meat back. I don't even want to know what the Fedex bill for that is going to be. You don't need to hunt private land, there is millions of BLM and forest service acres to hunt. Since you not into the point system game. Idaho and Colorado is where i'd go for an over the counter tag.

    A Newfoundland Moose or Caribou hunt would be awesome, pricey but awesome. Some may not agree but invest in some quality coolers for transporting the meat

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    I hunted moose/caribou in the Yukon in 2016. A friend out there (Whitehorse resident) was successful in getting a special guide permit in their lottery which allowed me to hunt. Without the special guide permit I could join the hunt, but could not hunt myself. With the permit, my guide had to be with me at all times while hunting to ensure legal animal/gender/location/protocols. My hunt was about 2 weeks too early, but my buddy and his friends sent me back with a cooler jammed with meat. We had meat export permits for each piece in the cooler. That traces back to each person's seal who harvested that animal, and paperwork was attached to the cooler and I had copies with me before I was allowed to put the meat on the plane. Any antlers would have to go through a taxidermist to ensure no brain material is transported or paperwork showing it goes to a taxidermist upon arrival. The meat was frozen, taped the cooler shut, taped permits to the cooler and once on the plane it's in cargo which is cold anyway. Everything was still frozen solid after the flights home, layovers and drive from the airport.
    The biggest thing is probably the special guide permit unless you are paying an outfitter to do that stuff for you. Happy hunting.

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    I'm commenting on the transport of the meat if driving. Buddy and I hunted western Ontario for moose and deer. I bought a used freezer that fit in the back of the truck. We plugged the freezer in up there and butchered the meat as we got it. Got our last deer on the last day, cut that night put in freezer. Next morning wasn't quite frozen, but close. Unloaded the freezer to lift back on truck, re-filled it and drove home, stay night in SSM finished drive next day still frozen hard when we got home. Now have meat freezer at home for my game, and have used it for a couple of trips back up.

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    Friends hunting Moose in northern Ontario use a trailer with freezer and generator secured on it. They also used it to bring meat back from Wyoming last year. It works like a charm. Flying meat home by air cargo is the most expensive. There's no guarantees that the airline won't screw it up,either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ride.lift.shoot View Post

    Pro's/con's of bow vs. rifle, driving vs. flying. Anything else that might shed light on embarking on this sort of adventure.

    Cheers,
    RLS
    What type of vehicle do you drive? I did a hog hunt down in Texas around San Antonio. We drove and brought 5 hogs home. Ice is dirt cheap down there and I drive a 1-ton diesel P/U. We bought 1500 lbs of ice for $100 and pre froze the hogs in a walk in freezer. Put the field dressed hogs on ice in the box wrapped in a tarp. It was 27C when we left Texas and 4C when we stopped 20 hours later for 4 hours of sleep. Drove the remaining 10 hours the next day and it was -7C at home. Hogs never thawed at all. Asking about the vehicle as this is not option for cars, SUVs or even 1/2 ton pickups as between the hogs, ice, gear and 2 adults you would be well over the rated payload of those vehicles. The 5 hogs probably had a combined weight similar to an elk but definitely less than a bull moose. A decent trailer would solve the payload issue if you have the towing ability but tends to kill your fuel mileage. My preference is always to drive as I love a good road trip.
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    I drive a 1/2 ton, but that's a great frame of reference for what can be done to keep things from spoiling.

    Sounds like a few of you have done trips south of the border, I've been apprehensive about crossing the border for this trip on the merit that transporting meat across the border and even state to state can have a lot of red tape and be heavily regulated. Did you guys find it was an issue at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride.lift.shoot View Post

    Sounds like a few of you have done trips south of the border, I've been apprehensive about crossing the border for this trip on the merit that transporting meat across the border and even state to state can have a lot of red tape and be heavily regulated. Did you guys find it was an issue at all?
    Never had any issues crossing the border. Had my form 6 for the firearms and ammo and just declared everything going both ways. Handed my PAL and Form 6 to them with my passport before they even asked. Neither US or Canada Customs has ever even asked to see the firearms or ammo. Regarding crossing with animals I have only ever done so with hogs. In those cases they could be field dressed but not butchered. If butchered and more than a certain weight they would have to have some type of federal inspection in order to cross. Everytime I just declared I have XX number of hogs on ice in the box wrapped in a tarp. They never even asked to see them. The most that ever happened was one time the border guard said let me make a call. He got on the phone for 30 seconds than hung up and said have a nice day.

    If you were crossing with whitetails or other big game animal native to Ontario or some type of game on the CITES list i'm sure the process would be different.
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