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    I just bought some ammo yesterday at the CTC in Tillsonburg yesterday as we're down visiting a friend and shooting some 22's and pellets. They only asked for my pal. My friend says they used to record your address until someone complained.
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    It's hit and miss with Canadian Tire sometimes they ask for my PAL other times they ask for driver license and other times they ask for nothing. Also I did ask the CFO once and was told anyone selling the ammo or handling it in the store must have a PAL. However I know for a fact they don't all have a PAL as I asked my local once and nobody had a PAL. That may have changed as I told the store owner they need to have a PAL.
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    Hope you get a response from your letter Marker, and like to see the reply.

    I had dealings with the CT in town when they started to selling firearms. I went to buy ammunition, was ask for my PAL and drivers license no problem until he started to copy my drivers license info I took the license back and told him he could not have that information, I would only let him use it to confirm my ID. He told me it was store policy and he could not sell ammunition without it, I said no problem and have never been back.

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    I don't buy ammo from CTC anymore. The escorted walk of shame across the store to the cash doesn't work for me.
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    C Tire in Bells Corners asks for both D licence and PAL.. I had one fella ask me what I was going to use the ammo for? I said.. I need to speak to the owner....owner did not care.. asked owner if people with key access had.PAL? No he said.. never went back... book is not secure either. Sits on a string attached the a desk in the fishing/hunting section... what a joke.

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    It's hit and miss. Some stores like Sail and Kemptville know the correct regulations. But.... I have purchased ammo at other CT stores and Walmart and some ask for ID, some don't some record it and some don't. Both CT and Walmart have given me the ammo no ID asked for and no locked bag I just carried it around until I was done shopping.

    Yes all employees handling ammo or firearms require a PAL.

    http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...ab-eaf-eng.htm



    To be eligible for a firearms business licence, a business must meet the following requirements:

    All employees who handle firearms for employment purposes must have a valid Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL):
    If the business possesses non-restricted firearms, but no other class of firearms, then employees are required to hold a licence to acquire non-restricted firearms;
    Employees must be licensed to acquire restricted firearms if the business possesses restricted or prohibited firearms.
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013)

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    I confronted CT headquarters regarding the Ontario requirements and CT policy. I outlined to them that according to the CFO, they can omit the licencee's address. CT still insists to record address, no ammo purchase from CT ever again. Since then, I've been purchasing my ammo from Sail etc... No recording of address.

    "The CFO of Ontario has authorized business that transfer ammunition to POL, PAL and MINOR’S licence holders to omit the licencee’s address in the ammunition ledger. A business may, by store policy, still record address information."
    http://rrgc.ca/wp-content/uploads/20...ion-Poster.pdf
    Last edited by bush24; September 4th, 2018 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bush24 View Post
    I confronted CT headquarters regarding the Ontario requirements and CT policy. I outlined to them that according to the CFO, they can omit the licencee's address. CT still insists to record address, no ammo purchase from CT ever again. Since then, I've been purchasing my ammo from Sail etc... No recording of address.

    "The CFO of Ontario has authorized business that transfer ammunition to POL, PAL and MINOR’S licence holders to omit the licencee’s address in the ammunition ledger. A business may, by store policy, still record address information."
    http://rrgc.ca/wp-content/uploads/20...ion-Poster.pdf
    They will also deny someone with a Minors permit from buying ammunition, I showed them the actual laws (not a minor but had a minors permit and bought ammo at 15), they claim the RCMP sets the rules, they have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    They will also deny someone with a Minors permit from buying ammunition, I showed them the actual laws (not a minor but had a minors permit and bought ammo at 15), they claim the RCMP sets the rules, they have no idea.
    Same thing with CT in Brantford with my son. He buys all his ammo at Sail now.

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    There are some CT employees who actually know the law in relation to ammunition and components. I was picking up some Pyrodex one day. I said to the guy, “I suppose you’ll want to see my PAL.” He replied, “ it isn’t necessary Pyrodex is not ammunition.” By contrast I’ve gone into a sport shops to buy smokeless powder and they’ve asked for my name and address. Again if you are buying ammunition they have every right to ask to see your PAL, it the law. To my knowledge, as yet, there is no law requiring them to take down your name and address. So I have a feeling it’s probably an ‘anus protectus’ policy instituted by the franchise owner of the individual store. So, it may be pointless to raise the issue with the corporation itself, and if you do, be sure to mention the location of the individual store, so they can point out to the franchise owner that his policy is really unnecessary and it maybe costing him business.

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