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    Interesting to read just who is calling the shots.. PM Butts.??

    https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/03/12...rns-put/137000

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    Somebody has to think for the village idiot ! He couldn’t organize a three man march to a shyte house on his own !

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    Some interesting comments... look likes dictator Trudeau is working at consolidating power and silencing opposition...

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s angry response to a rural MP’s concerns raised at a recent national caucus meeting on the Hill over the government’s upcoming gun legislation did not go over well with some Liberal MPs who say it will have a “chilling” effect on their ability to speak candidly at the closed-door meetings.

    According to Liberal MPs and insiders, Mr. Trudeau (Papineau, Que.) verbally “attacked” rookie Liberal MP T.J. Harvey (Tobique-Mactaquac, N.B.), chair of the Liberal rural caucus, during the Feb. 28 national caucus meeting on Parliament Hill. Mr. Harvey stood up to say that there was a “lack” of meaningful consultation with the caucus over the government’s upcoming gun control legislation.

    “Justin was much too vitriolic and attacked him,” one Liberal MP, referring to Mr. Harvey, told The Hill Times, who spoke on condition of anonymity since the closed-door caucus meetings are confidential. “We’re also supposed to have the right to voice our opinion.”
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    According to sources, Mr. Trudeau, “went after” Mr. Harvey and “asserted” that there has already been a “robust, more than sufficient consultation,” and no more consultation was needed. Sources said that the whole caucus was taken aback by the prime minister’s unusually angry tone, which they said would have an “intimidating effect” on MPs’ willingness to raise issues in future caucus meetings.
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    PM Butts.
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    Liberal MPs and insiders also wondered why Mr. Goodale hosted the one-day National Summit on the Gun and Gang Violence in Ottawa last week during a break week when all Parliamentarians are in their ridings and regions.



    Alot of questions about integrity, intent and competence and who is actually ruining the country ...... other pages have mentioned Australia like legislation but I don't have time to go back and find that article again.

    typo (?) running....

    Unprofessional, child like, ran by Butts .... Trudeau is truly unfit for even a drama teachers job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    ... other pages have mentioned Australia like legislation but I don't have time to go back and find that article again.
    The Liberals have said what will be included in the bill. It's not really a big mystery.


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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    The Liberals have said what will be included in the bill. It's not really a big mystery.


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    They have? Please provide reference.... all I see is items like this article that mention a registry, back benchers questions being ignored and them being yelled at and concerns being ignored and in one place I saw mention of changes and Australia and confused or lying idiots mention of Full Semi-auto assault weapons talked about.

    It seems that the Lieberal's are going to put something forward that upsets back benchers and PM Butts won't accept anything but bowing on ... or maybe it is something more like in the admired gov't of Xi Jinping ... dictator for life??
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    Um ... try reading the news.

    Goodale commented on this just a couple of weeks ago. He explicitly stated they would be implementing the remaining pieces of the 2015 platform, with the possible exception of the requirement to keep sales records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    Um ... try reading the news.

    Goodale commented on this just a couple of weeks ago. He explicitly stated they would be implementing the remaining pieces of the 2015 platform, with the possible exception of the requirement to keep sales records.

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    Well,there's a "fake news" story. Are you writing another column for McLeans,again? Please explain,then,why the very visibly upset PM angrily berated an East coast caucus MP representing rural residences who were very upset with upcoming firearms policies that will adversely affect them after he tried to raise the issue in caucus? Please explain why Liberal rural riding MP's are literally afraid to brooch the subject in caucus for fear of aggravating The Shiny Pony? How many gallons of Liberal kool-aid can you drink at one sitting,A.J.?

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uAG7X_1520553097
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    The shiny pony is in a bit of slump. Basically everything he is involved in or touches turns to krapp. His approval ratings are dropping and his global rock star status is changing to hipster dufus, and I'm being generous here. As for gun laws, it will be incremental and as it is now a convenient "channel" change to get the simple minded voters to forget about China, India and the free trade negotiations.
    To put it perspective Macron the French PM was met at the airport by the Indian PM not the janitor. Billions $$ were signed in trade agreements. Trudough came home with $250k but left $750k in India one of the largest economies on the planet. Pathetic.
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    I don't think backbench MPs are spooked by the contents of the bill. They're spooked by the volume of letters and calls they're getting from constituents. Note that the article actually says right out that the worry is more about spin and blowback.

    As for the PM losing it, this is probably not the first time and I wouldn't assume it has anything in particular to do with any individual bill. The real point here is not guns ... there has been for years a growing tension between rank & file backbenchers and the caucus leaders both in government & opposition. See for example Mike Chong's democratic reform bill which was designed to restore power to individual MPs. Andrew Coyne has written about this at length. The Liberal backbenchers behind this leak feel (justifiably) that as elected representatives they should not play 2nd fiddle to Butts, who has been elected by no one. That's the real story of this leak. They didn't leak this tale to the Hill Times because they're afraid of a gun bill; they leaked it because they want Butts's wings clipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    ... his global rock star status is changing to hipster dufus, and I'm being generous here. As for gun laws, it will be incremental and as it is now a convenient "channel" change to get the simple minded voters to forget about China, India and the free trade negotiations.
    Good take. Likely the PM's testiness is because the wheels have come off his image train and he needs to actually do something. He wants to get people thinking about something else.



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