This Should send a message to the Government of Quebec and the Federal Liberals

[greatwhite]

Ok not sure exactly what you mean. I have lent out guns and have also borrowed some, so it is very possible for someone who lives in Quebec to have borrowed a gun from in a friend in Ontario.

As long as your tin-foil hat fits, I'm sure the police will believe you....

[Bushmoose]

What if someone from Quebec borrows a gun from a friend in Ontario?

You could have a bank vault and if someone got in you would be charged exactly the same and this has happaned. A fellow in Toronto had an actual bank vault. Thieves spent 2 days to break in and he was still charged with unsafe storage.

Ok not sure exactly what you mean. I have lent out guns and have also borrowed some, so it is very possible for someone who lives in Quebec to have borrowed a gun from in a friend in Ontario.

I'm not lending you bail money?

[greatwhite]

This is not a criminal law in Quebec it is the equivalent of a parking ticket just more expensive. Second as I stated doews this mean people in Quebec can no longer borrow a firearm from someone in another province.

You do realize that part of the reason the LGR was able to be defeated was because many had not registered their guns. If you registered u supported it.

I'm not lending you bail money?

[MikePal]

add to this ....If I remember correctly there was about 25% non-compliance in Que with the original registry....so the amount of firearms in the province is far greater that the 1.6 million they had originally registered.

Quebec's Public Security Ministry says that 311,451 of the province's non-restricted firearms, which include hunting rifles, carbines and other long guns, have been registered so far.

That's up from 294,125 before the holidays, but is still less than 20 per cent of the 1.6 million firearms that were registered in the province when the federal registry was in effect.

Ministry employees were at a gun show this weekend in Longueuil, south of Montreal, providing information and paperwork to gun owners so that they can register by the Jan. 29 deadline.

Firearms can be registered by mail or online. The process is free. Once the weapons are registered, gun owners will have 90 days to affix a serial number to them.

Steve Torino, the director of security for the Lower Canada Arms Collectors Association, which put on the exhibition, says that the percentage of gun owners in compliance is likely even lower than 19 per cent.

It looks like less than 20% have re-registered their firearms this time around .....that indicates a huge non-compliance with this new registry. Apparently they aren't to worried about getting a fine. Which is $500..... to a max of $5000.

AND the Indigenous have been told they have to comply...HaHa....that'll be a non-starter.

[rick_iles]

It must be fun hunting in Quebec with an unregistered gun. Your head would be in a swivel watching for any LEO to show up........

[MikePal]

It must be fun hunting in Quebec with an unregistered gun. Your head would be in a swivel watching for any LEO to show up........

Probably much like here...haven't seen a CO in 22 yrs....after awhile you stop looking behind every tree....

[Gilroy]

You could have a bank vault and if someone got in you would be charged exactly the same and this has happaned. A fellow in Toronto had an actual bank vault. Thieves spent 2 days to break in and he was still charged with unsafe storage.

Mike Hardgreaves was the one that was charged in this incident.I know the man and he is a great guy,has a lot of knowledge on firearms and had been declared as an EXPERT for court purposes.Because he testified against the CROWN and for the defence he had a target placed on his back by the powers that be.When his apartment was broken into which was a Subsidised Ontario Housing Unit in a gang plagued area the powers that be decided that he should be charged,even although as you say the thieves had to work on the safe for several days with cutting torches.IMHO it was a complete disgrace this man was charged.He could have fought these charges and won but decided to go to the USA and was head of security for a few gated communities down there.The CROWN came to their senses awhile ago and dropped all the charges and the warrant for him was cancelled.IT should never have happened and he is owed compensation for his forced exodus to the USA.

Its actually to bad he did not fight these charges because it would have FORCED THE COURTS to give definitive decisions about exactly what exactly is Safe Storage. We would all be better off because right now any ill informed police officer can lay, lay charges.

This case is a perfect example where the firearms community should have gotten behind this man,financially backed him up and took the government to the wall.Unfortunately somebody else will have to be charged and take up the fight.

[rick_iles]

Probably much like here...haven't seen a CO in 22 yrs....after awhile you stop looking behind every tree....

You likely won’t, hunting behind your house. We’ve been checked three times by COs and twice by the police....
Hunting in NW Ontario, there’s an excellent chance you will be checked by COs......and that’s a good thing !!
It’s not just being checked hunting one needs to be concerned with....

[greatwhite]

I thought eventually the charges were dropped after fighting for several years.

But regardless as I said you could store your firearms in fort Knox and if they were stolen you would be charged with unsafe storage.

Mike Hardgreaves was the one that was charged in this incident.I know the man and he is a great guy,has a lot of knowledge on firearms and had been declared as an EXPERT for court purposes.Because he testified against the CROWN and for the defence he had a target placed on his back by the powers that be.When his apartment was broken into which was a Subsidised Ontario Housing Unit in a gang plagued area the powers that be decided that he should be charged,even although as you say the thieves had to work on the safe for several days with cutting torches.IMHO it was a complete disgrace this man was charged.He could have fought these charges and won but decided to go to the USA and was head of security for a few gated communities down there.The CROWN came to their senses awhile ago and dropped all the charges and the warrant for him was cancelled.IT should never have happened and he is owed compensation for his forced exodus to the USA.

Its actually to bad he did not fight these charges because it would have FORCED THE COURTS to give definitive decisions about exactly what exactly is Safe Storage. We would all be better off because right now any ill informed police officer can lay, lay charges.

This case is a perfect example where the firearms community should have gotten behind this man,financially backed him up and took the government to the wall.Unfortunately somebody else will have to be charged and take up the fight.

[greatwhite]

Thousands hunted in Canada with being registered in the LGR

It must be fun hunting in Quebec with an unregistered gun. Your head would be in a swivel watching for any LEO to show up........