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Thread: Would this be considered any differently than a crossbow? Traditions XBR

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ToTLgnoJvI

    I saw this pop up today in my email, a Traditions crackshot rimfire gun converted to shoot bolts at around 385fps, the range limitation would be about the same as a crossbow, still shooting a bolt with a broadhead, would this be considered a gun or a bow in the regulations?

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    Of course we be just speculation here but I think definition is not based on projectile but propulsion. From what I see it would be akin to a 22 rimfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers View Post
    Of course we be just speculation here but I think definition is not based on projectile but propulsion. From what I see it would be akin to a 22 rimfire.
    It is propelled by a 27 cal blank, so not a cartridge at all.

    I guess I look at what is being propelled rather than that is propelling it.

    We say shotgun only they shoot shotguns with rifled barrels and hitting deer at 200+ yards away.

    We have muzzleloaders that are smokeless and loaded with more powder than a 300 Win Mag.

    We use crossbows that move an arrow at 400fps and group tighter than many rifles.

    I think it is a really cool idea, with the above examples I don't know where it will lie, to the other regs it should be considered a gun firing an arrow but for hunting what part will they take into consideration.

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    Blank or not the question would be center fire or rimfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers View Post
    Blank or not the question would be center fire or rimfire.
    True, it would be a gun with respect to a PAL or not, but you are shooting an arrow and have limited range, could that be a reason for use in bow hunting.

    This is the same as taking anything shooting a shotgun shell and calling it a shotgun but a savage bolt action fully rifled barreled shotgun is not the intend of the shotgun rules.

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    It would meet the definition of a “Firearm” for criminal code or firearms act purposes..

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    Its not a bow at all. How could it be considered a bow? The fact it shoots arrows is irrelevant.

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    As a kid we used to make funny weapons and have compitions on targets. I guess someone saw us and called the cops. The officer told me that anything projected from an barrel is considered a firearm and we could be charged. So I told him a spit ball projected from pen is then a firearm right. He smiled and didn't know what to say. So as an adult I would consider that to be a firearm regardless of what is projected.
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    Didn't a company make an airgun that does the same thing.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwqMkjYjmtw ...... Not much different ? ....... small game I would think it's ok ..... but wouldn't think it's legal on big game .
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    Last edited by G Skinner; April 26th, 2019 at 07:35 PM.

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