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    Quote Originally Posted by Dythbringer View Post
    I have noticed something about this man. He likes to sling various platitudes (feminism, environment, middle class, etc) in a very slick, presentable fashion. However, when someone calls him out his BS, he goes from smooth operator to a combination of foghorn leghorn and porky pig in a half a second. I would have thought a person with a teaching background in drama would have a bit better composure then this. However, I suppose the saying "those who can, do; those who can't, teach" has more than a bit of truth to it.

    Do we need to reduce our one time use plastic "consumption"? Yes. Is it the most important issue we need to deal with? No.

    I am getting a bit sick and tired of Trudeau preaching at me from his supposed moral high ground when it has been shown time and time again that he doesn't have any high ground to stand on. I swear October can't come fast enough for me.
    You are not the one he is going for, you are not a fence sitting (I know, stating the obvious). The problem is that there are so many people that will lock on to their single issue, think about it, our gun ban potential is one major reason for us here not to vote for him, the other stupidity just adds to it.

    The thing to really be worried about are those people who say that believe 100% in every single talking point or policy coming out of a party leader, if this is the case then they are lying or complete sheep. There are things that Trudeau has done that are, for the fear of being attacked, a good thing but the vast majority has been contrary to my views. The same can be said for the NDP and Conservatives, Sheer has some talking points that make me cringe and the NDP policies sometimes make me applaud, it is always an internal battle and then on top of that, once they get in there is no telling that they will do what you voted for anyway.

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    Well,I have to admit that his statement regarding elimination of plastic water bottles certainly got my attention. That's been a pet peeve of mine for a very long time. Everywhere we look,anymore,there's an empty bottle laying around somewhere. I see them at our Moose camp from previous years logging operations that haven't started to break down. It wouldn't break my heart if every plastic bottle disappeared tomorrow.
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    Plastic use is an obvious problem. However, I think the whole recycling issue needs addressing first. It appears that very little is actually being recycled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    You are not the one he is going for, you are not a fence sitting (I know, stating the obvious). The problem is that there are so many people that will lock on to their single issue, think about it, our gun ban potential is one major reason for us here not to vote for him, the other stupidity just adds to it.

    The thing to really be worried about are those people who say that believe 100% in every single talking point or policy coming out of a party leader, if this is the case then they are lying or complete sheep. There are things that Trudeau has done that are, for the fear of being attacked, a good thing but the vast majority has been contrary to my views. The same can be said for the NDP and Conservatives, Sheer has some talking points that make me cringe and the NDP policies sometimes make me applaud, it is always an internal battle and then on top of that, once they get in there is no telling that they will do what you voted for anyway.
    I concur. I think Chris Rock said it best "Everybody's so busy wanting to be down with the gang. "I'm conservative", "I'm liberal", "I'm conservative". Bull%$#! Be a #$@!##%%$ person! Lis-ten! Let it swirl around your head. Then form your opinion. No normal, decent person is one thing, okay? I've got some %$#! I'm conservative about, I've got some %$#! I'm liberal about. Crime, I'm conservative. Prostitution, I'm liberal!" A pretty good joke at the end but the point is there.

    While I don't always agree with the Conservative party (I still think Ford should have given us a platform). Most of the time, they are the political party which reflects my views on how this country should be run. However, and I have said this before, just because I fall to the right side of the political spectrum when dealing with issues, it doesn't mean that I can't entertain good ideas can't come from other parties or politicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dythbringer View Post
    While I don't always agree with the Conservative party (I still think Ford should have given us a platform). Most of the time, they are the political party which reflects my views on how this country should be run. However, and I have said this before, just because I fall to the right side of the political spectrum when dealing with issues, it doesn't mean that I can't entertain good ideas can't come from other parties or politicans.
    I don't like Ford, I think it should have been one of the 3 women that he has at the top of his group now, but I don't think the fundamentalist conservatives in Ontario would have voted for a woman so they had to go with him to win a majority, frustrating but not false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    You are not the one he is going for, you are not a fence sitting (I know, stating the obvious). The problem is that there are so many people that will lock on to their single issue, think about it, our gun ban potential is one major reason for us here not to vote for him, the other stupidity just adds to it.

    The thing to really be worried about are those people who say that believe 100% in every single talking point or policy coming out of a party leader, if this is the case then they are lying or complete sheep. There are things that Trudeau has done that are, for the fear of being attacked, a good thing but the vast majority has been contrary to my views. The same can be said for the NDP and Conservatives, Sheer has some talking points that make me cringe and the NDP policies sometimes make me applaud, it is always an internal battle and then on top of that, once they get in there is no telling that they will do what you voted for anyway.
    I know people like that. They are otherwise politically-engaged critical thinkers, but they go bananas if you remotely criticize Trudeau or his actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Well,I have to admit that his statement regarding elimination of plastic water bottles certainly got my attention. That's been a pet peeve of mine for a very long time. Everywhere we look,anymore,there's an empty bottle laying around somewhere. I see them at our Moose camp from previous years logging operations that haven't started to break down. It wouldn't break my heart if every plastic bottle disappeared tomorrow.
    I agree, take a look at any of the dumps up in cottage country and it’s a sea of plastic water bottles. We’re just not smart enough as a society to clean up after ourselves I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbk View Post
    All the politics aside-I just can not make my head around WHY we(actually not me and my Family)but why many people think water from bottle,tetra pack ,water Jug etc are any better then tap water?
    What is wrong with many..............?
    Im lucky my water is great. One block over a friends water is terrible. Hes connected to a newer section of town supply and they wont drink the tap supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Plastic use is an obvious problem. However, I think the whole recycling issue needs addressing first. It appears that very little is actually being recycled.
    Yea a whole whopping 9 percent really gets recycled lol. .

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    For the sake of accuracy.

    CE did win the popular vote. We are stuck with Ford because the Cons use a ranked system whereby certain areas (cough cough we can all guess) are given more weight.

    So to say or argue as many in the left do, that Cons would never elect a woman, or Cons elected a dimwit misogynist

    Not quite true.

    be that as it may. Politics are a funny thing. Instead of this important issue being debated and people having to think about their own habits.....social media, msm is talking about the imbecile...and his gibberish reply.

    they are also vilifying Ford for cutting funding to a tree planting program. Curious, because if we start using a few billion more paper straws, bags, cardboard boxes each year...........
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