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    What's a permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    If he's using a real estate agent or a lawyer they (he) has to answer those questions by law.



    All well drilling requires a permit unless it's done under the guise of fixing a old well....but I know from personal experience it's not always done and can be done off the books.
    Well drilling does not require a permit generally speaking. Usually all that is required is for the driller to file a well record with the province showing the construction details and showing that regulatory construction standards were met.

    If the user intends to take more than 50,000 litres on any given day than a Permit to Take Water is required. This assumes that the well is not for domestic use. If you prove it 100% domestic and not municipally owned than you can actually take north of 300,000 litres per day ( can't remember the exact amount) sans permit

    The permit taking requirements also apply to taking surface water and are an aggregate i.e. all water taking (surface and groundwater) combined on any given property must be less than the volume caps to avoid the requirement for a permit.

    Whether there are structures or not, existing wells, whatever does not matter. If you have the cash there is generally nothing stopping you from dropping in 10 wells if you are so inclined
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    I don't understand what your talking about requirments for a well? I just drilled a well on a property with no septic. Simply call a well driller, pay and it's done.
    Really simple:

    "A well wont be drilled unless there is a record of same".

    Your well was drilled by a licensed well installer, and a record was filed in accordance with R.R.O. 1990 Reg. 903. These are filed with the province, however, recently many Municipalities have required the record to be filed with their building Dept. under the SWPA.

    "16.3 (1) On completion of a well’s structural stage, the person constructing the well shall,

    (a) complete, in accordance with the instructions on the form, a well record for the well;

    (b) deliver a copy of the well record to the well purchaser and the owner of the land on which the well is situated within 14 days after the date on which the well’s structural stage is complete;

    (c) forward a copy of the well record to the Director within 30 days after the date on which the well’s structural stage is complete; and

    (d) retain a copy of the well record for two years. O. Reg. 372/07, s. 17."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebulldog View Post
    Really simple:

    "A well wont be drilled unless there is a record of same".

    Your well was drilled by a licensed well installer, and a record was filed in accordance with R.R.O. 1990 Reg. 903. These are filed with the province, however, recently many Municipalities have required the record to be filed with their building Dept. under the SWPA.

    "16.3 (1) On completion of a well’s structural stage, the person constructing the well shall,

    (a) complete, in accordance with the instructions on the form, a well record for the well;

    (b) deliver a copy of the well record to the well purchaser and the owner of the land on which the well is situated within 14 days after the date on which the well’s structural stage is complete;

    (c) forward a copy of the well record to the Director within 30 days after the date on which the well’s structural stage is complete; and

    (d) retain a copy of the well record for two years. O. Reg. 372/07, s. 17."
    Nothing was required on my part from my township, if it was the driller never mentioned it, drilled my well, paid him and he left. Actually my neighbor in town (just outside of town) just had a well drilled last year, just spoke to him last night about it. Same deal, called driller, came drilled capped it and left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Nothing was required on my part from my township, if it was the driller never mentioned it, drilled my well, paid him and he left. Actually my neighbor in town (just outside of town) just had a well drilled last year, just spoke to him last night about it. Same deal, called driller, came drilled capped it and left.
    The records are usually filed by the driller. Most people don't even know it is done. No cost and takes 5 minutes to complete. Provincial requirement not township.

    You should technically however have been copied on the record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Nothing was required on my part from my township, if it was the driller never mentioned it, drilled my well, paid him and he left. Actually my neighbor in town (just outside of town) just had a well drilled last year, just spoke to him last night about it. Same deal, called driller, came drilled capped it and left.
    My words " Many Municipalities..." not all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Species8472 View Post
    The records are usually filed by the driller. Most people don't even know it is done. No cost and takes 5 minutes to complete. Provincial requirement not township.
    And under the SWPA, that data is now available to Municipalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Species8472 View Post
    The records are usually filed by the driller. Most people don't even know it is done. No cost and takes 5 minutes to complete. Provincial requirement not township.

    You should technically however have been copied on the record.
    Thanks for clarifying that, all I know is a well is just a phone call away and cash payment

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Thanks for clarifying that, all I know is a well is just a phone call away and cash payment
    We are in the process now of extending our well, they are required to submit well records, they are required to do a pressure test, they are required to shock the well. You may be able to get a guy to drill a hole but a well hookup would not be something that would be done with cash and a call. If there is a well record on file then you can bet it was done legally, nobody would drill and file without covering their butt by doing what is required by law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Thanks for clarifying that, all I know is a well is just a phone call away and cash payment
    Easiest way to confirm that the record was filed is go look at the well. If the driller prepared a record he typically puts a stainless steel band around the casing that has a rectangular tag on it about the size of a dog tag. That tag will have the provincial record number on it.
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