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    Does anybody know the legality of walking on a designated skidoo trail that goes through private property. What are the rights of owners and trail users?
    My this years hunt came to a sudden halt due to the skidoo trail I was using had a point where it crossed anotherís land for a small section. I did not k ow this and got caught. My access to my stand is now extremely difficult. Thoughts?


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    The land owner would have a written agreement with the club that runs the trail and itís probably limited to permit holders.

    Iíd say it is trespassing to walk down it however thereís a bit more to it.

    Read the trespass to property act. If itís not signed and not a field and you didnít climb over a fence then I believe you are in the clear up to the point someone confronts you.


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    Unless they are using a road allowance you would be trespassing. The snowmobile trail is there because the owner was nice enough to let the club and members use their land for the trail, anything outside of riding down the trail on a sled would be outside of the scope of permission.

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    Agree with the above skidoo trails do not give you permission to trespass. If they are on crown land then have at it but private land is private. They just give permission to the ofsc to have a trail. If you have a trail permit a snowmobile and the trail is open then you can do it but not otherwise

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    Im confident that there must be generations of abuse when it comes to property lines here in Ontario. My experience has been when asking permission people are mostly f I NG a holes about it. Iíve had one give me permission verbally only to hear afterwards that this is BS. Anyway. Iíve got to cut a new trail now. My own fault I guess. Thatís thatís it coming from a province where people give you the shirts off their backs for you to up tight Ontarianís. Sorry people but itís true. .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosesniper View Post
    Im confident that there must be generations of abuse when it comes to property lines here in Ontario. My experience has been when asking permission people are mostly f I NG a holes about it. Iíve had one give me permission verbally only to hear afterwards that this is BS. Anyway. Iíve got to cut a new trail now. My own fault I guess. Thatís thatís it coming from a province where people give you the shirts off their backs for you to up tight Ontarianís. Sorry people but itís true. .


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    Snowmobile trails do not give you the right to trespass on someone's land because it makes your life more convenient. They are meant only for snowmobiles with permits during a prescribed period of time.

    It seems you have a sense of entitlement coming from whatever province you came from. Maybe the landowner has had to deal with trespassers and poachers for years. Or people who were given permission abused it. Or maybe they are a-holes. Ultimately their reasons don't matter. I've had to deal with everything above firsthand. If you don't like the landowners rules buy your own land and you won't have an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Useless View Post
    Snowmobile trails do not give you the right to trespass on someone's land because it makes your life more convenient. They are meant only for snowmobiles with permits during a prescribed period of time.

    It seems you have a sense of entitlement coming from whatever province you came from. Maybe the landowner has had to deal with trespassers and poachers for years. Or people who were given permission abused it. Or maybe they are a-holes. Ultimately their reasons don't matter. I've had to deal with everything above firsthand. If you don't like the landowners rules buy your own land and you won't have an issue.
    There is no sense of entitlement here. I didnít know that when I had permission to travel a property that for a brief moment it crossed over on someone elseís property. I got caught. I explained my circumstances and apologized as a respectful human being. Im just saying in my experience land owners around here can be very difficult to deal with. Whatever their reasons. It doesnít matter. Thatís their decision and I am following their rules. No sense of entitlement was presented. Im just saying that the province that I grew up in. People generally are very giving. Not like some of the pricks here. I see it everyday in my own neighbourhood. I donít even know why they move into communities. They canít even get along with there neighbours. Just Nasty sobs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosesniper View Post
    There is no sense of entitlement here. I didn’t know that when I had permission to travel a property that for a brief moment it crossed over on someone else’s property. I got caught. I explained my circumstances and apologized as a respectful human being. Im just saying in my experience land owners around here can be very difficult to deal with. Whatever their reasons. It doesn’t matter. That’s their decision and I am following their rules. No sense of entitlement was presented. Im just saying that the province that I grew up in. People generally are very giving. Not like some of the pricks here. I see it everyday in my own neighbourhood. I don’t even know why they move into communities. They can’t even get along with there neighbours. Just Nasty sobs.


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    I get where you're coming from,Goosesniper. One with any common sense would think that because the landowners have given permission for people to cross their property while on snow machines,someone walking along a trail once in a while shouldn't be an issue,yet,here they are and it doesn't seem fair. There's been a massive migration of city folk to the suburbs outside the GTA (read Toronto). The problem is they're taking their bullshyte attitude with them. It takes a while for them to get with the program. You haven't lived until you've had some OFSC dummy tell you that we need a trail permit to walk on their trails on public land. Man,you should have been there for that conversation.
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    maybe someone should go back to the other province. I get along really well with the landowners I hunt on. The one was telling me the other day that someone has put a stand at the edge of his field in the bush he owns and put up a no trespassing sign all on his land. Wonder why owners get pissy. He just asked me to go check it out that he not really to concerned. I will point out to him that maybe he should be concerned as it this guys falls out of his tree stand and gets hurt, he will probably sue the farmer, even though he has no right to be on the property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    I get where you're coming from,Goosesniper. One with any common sense would think that because the landowners have given permission for people to cross their property while on snow machines,someone walking along a trail once in a while shouldn't be an issue,yet,here they are and it doesn't seem fair. There's been a massive migration of city folk to the suburbs outside the GTA (read Toronto). The problem is they're taking their bullshyte attitude with them. It takes a while for them to get with the program. You haven't lived until you've had some OFSC dummy tell you that we need a trail permit to walk on their trails on public land. Man,you should have been there for that conversation.
    Well Iím sure there are trails that donít require trail passes. Skidooís go up and down them all the time. When you walk on it youíre trespassing. I wasnít rude to the guy. I rarely am rude. I didnít know the trail for about 50í yards crossed over. I asked for permission and he gave it to me. Just lip service. And then complained to his neighbour that I crossed over and almost lost my permission to hunt on his. Some people are just miserable sobs.


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