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    Just saw an ad posted on here for Eagleye Hunting Gear!
    In the ad, a guy is sitting in a car aiming a scoped rifle out the window!!
    are all the people at OOD too dumb to know shooting out of a vehicle is ILLEGAL in Ontario??
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    ……...unless you have a disability permit. But yeah, its probably a blunder.

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    Technically this is not an illegal product to purchase, it is illegal to use as intended for in Ontario.
    You can legally purchase in Ontario to use before your trip to another part of the world where item can be legally used such as Africa.
    Similar argument is with natural deer urine products. You can purchase in many Ontario stores even though it can't be use in Ontario.
    Should you choose to deer hunt in Mexico, you have the freedom in Canada to prepare here rather than stocking up at a Mexican hunting store the day your hunt is to start.
    Although Ontario is a hunters paradise, there are opportunities beyond our border where laws are different which allow products and techniques that we are restricted on. For the record, I do support Ontario laws as we set a higher standard for safety and wildlife management. I do not agree with, nor want the product. To those who do travel for hunting and want to use, they may as well purchase here as support our economy when they pay tax on the product.
    Is not worth getting upset over, it won't promote or prevent breaking the law. A person can break the same Canadian law which Eagleye is designed for by placing a towel on your car window. Towels are also available for purchase in Ontario.
    Know the laws of where you plan to hunt.
    Key point is that the company can legally advertise such products, however if doing so in an Ontario targeted magazine they should have added the disclaimer that it is not legal for use in all countries so they can be seen as a more reputable company rather than simply pushing another hunting gimmick product.
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    To add to my earlier reply, my main intention of the reply was to defend the good people of Ontario Out of Doors magazine.
    The original slander towards their management of the magazine and website is not warrented.
    They promote safety, wildlife management and are vocal to protect our legal rights.

    I am proud to say I support OOD staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    Just saw an ad posted on here for Eagleye Hunting Gear!
    In the ad, a guy is sitting in a car aiming a scoped rifle out the window!!
    are all the people at OOD too dumb to know shooting out of a vehicle is ILLEGAL in Ontario??
    Just because something may be illegal to use,here,doesn't mean it's illegal to use elsewhere. We see night vision scopes advertised here all the time,right? They're illegal for use in this province. Advertising is universal and we're free to buy whatever legal product we want. Whether or not it may be used is a different matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Just because something may be illegal to use,here,doesn't mean it's illegal to use elsewhere. We see night vision scopes advertised here all the time,right? They're illegal for use in this province. Advertising is universal and we're free to buy whatever legal product we want. Whether or not it may be used is a different matter.
    I'd be careful in passing out this type of advice. In some instances, there are items viewed as prohibited accessories if you buy them, it not matter of using them or not using them, itís merely matter of being caught with them in your possession, that is enough to get you in trouble. Then there was the fellow who in the spring was walking along a rural road with a fishing spear over his shoulder, he was stopped by a CO and charged not because he was actually caught illegally spearing fish, but rather the CO believed that it was his intent to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Just because something may be illegal to use,here,doesn't mean it's illegal to use elsewhere. We see night vision scopes advertised here all the time,right? They're illegal for use in this province. Advertising is universal and we're free to buy whatever legal product we want. Whether or not it may be used is a different matter.

    Iíd be careful passing out this type of advice, In some instances, there are items viewed as prohibited accessories if you buy them, it not matter of using them or not using them, itís merely matter of being caught with them in your possession, that is enough to get you in trouble. Then there was the fellow who in the spring was walking along a rural road with a fishing spear over his shoulder, he was stopped by a CO and charged not because he was actually caught illegally spearing fish, but rather the CO believed that it was his intent to do so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tuna View Post
    To add to my earlier reply, my main intention of the reply was to defend the good people of Ontario Out of Doors magazine.
    The original slander towards their management of the magazine and website is not warrented.
    They promote safety, wildlife management and are vocal to protect our legal rights.

    I am proud to say I support OOD staff.
    I am a long time member of OFAH and a Hunter Ed and PAL instructor, and I stand by my original post!
    it was totally dumb on their part to advertise something that is NOT legal to do in Ontario, no matter what can be done with it in other regions! Yes, they are a great organization, but that doesn’t excuse them from showing wrong and misleading hunting practices that aren’t allowed in this province!!
    As H Ed instructors, we try hard to get across to students what are the laws in Ontario that they have to abide by for hunting, and seeing an ad promoting an illegal hunting practice by an organization that promotes safe, legal hunting practices in Ontario is frustrating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tuna View Post
    Technically this is not an illegal product to purchase, it is illegal to use as intended for in Ontario.
    You can legally purchase in Ontario to use before your trip to another part of the world where item can be legally used such as Africa.
    Similar argument is with natural deer urine products. You can purchase in many Ontario stores even though it can't be use in Ontario.
    Should you choose to deer hunt in Mexico, you have the freedom in Canada to prepare here rather than stocking up at a Mexican hunting store the day your hunt is to start.
    Although Ontario is a hunters paradise, there are opportunities beyond our border where laws are different which allow products and techniques that we are restricted on. For the record, I do support Ontario laws as we set a higher standard for safety and wildlife management. I do not agree with, nor want the product. To those who do travel for hunting and want to use, they may as well purchase here as support our economy when they pay tax on the product.
    Is not worth getting upset over, it won't promote or prevent breaking the law. A person can break the same Canadian law which Eagleye is designed for by placing a towel on your car window. Towels are also available for purchase in Ontario.
    Know the laws of where you plan to hunt.
    Key point is that the company can legally advertise such products, however if doing so in an Ontario targeted magazine they should have added the disclaimer that it is not legal for use in all countries so they can be seen as a more reputable company rather than simply pushing another hunting gimmick product.
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tuna View Post
    To add to my earlier reply, my main intention of the reply was to defend the good people of Ontario Out of Doors magazine.
    The original slander towards their management of the magazine and website is not warrented.
    They promote safety, wildlife management and are vocal to protect our legal rights.

    I am proud to say I support OOD staff.
    Agreed,completely.
    Socialism has an entrance and an exit. Vote your way in and shoot your way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    I'd be careful in passing out this type of advice. In some instances, there are items viewed as prohibited accessories if you buy them, it not matter of using them or not using them, it’s merely matter of being caught with them in your possession, that is enough to get you in trouble. Then there was the fellow who in the spring was walking along a rural road with a fishing spear over his shoulder, he was stopped by a CO and charged not because he was actually caught illegally spearing fish, but rather the CO believed that it was his intent to do so.

    You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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    There is nothing wrong with a night sight scope or a fishing spear, the CO has to believe that you are actually doing something illegal with it.

    You can legally spear fish, there is just a very tight restriction on what fish and during what season, in this case a guy with a bow fishing setup could be charged if the CO thought he was using it for salmon and not carp.

    You can shoot at night and you can use a night sight, you cannot hunt with one in Ontario, these things are entirely different. Protection of property by a land owner or agent of said land owner can shoot after standard legal shooting time. You can also hunt raccoons with the aid of a dog at night, there are opportunities to use a night sight in Ontario.

    I would be careful using generalizations, these things are not prohibited devices, their use is just restricted to specific situations.

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