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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    MP Gallant believes that her fellow Parliamentarians are so ill informed that they are confusing American gun laws with our own. I have more faith in our elected members of Parliament. Minister Bill Blair handled guns during his initial training at the Aylmer Police College,Ontario.
    He also had to re qualify year after year on his old colt revolver and then his glock semi auto. As a previous drug sqaud member he in all probability also undertook the shotgun training. I know he was trained also at the FBI academy at Quantico in Stafford County, Virginia.I am
    sure he did not pass up on an opportunity to play with the guns down there.
    Just because he "handled" guns @ police college doesn't make him an expert on current gun laws. I spent 30+ years in the military with all sorts of weapons and was still required to pass the firearms saftey course to get my PAL. Why is it such a problem to have someone actually understand the current laws before enacting something useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbolt View Post
    Just because he "handled" guns @ police college doesn't make him an expert on current gun laws. I spent 30+ years in the military with all sorts of weapons and was still required to pass the firearms saftey course to get my PAL. Why is it such a problem to have someone actually understand the current laws before enacting something useless
    It pretty much says it all when Liebral MPs, as well as the village idiot, comes out and says, semi automatic rifles are not used for hunting.......they have no clue !!!!!!
    There are many Leos that do not have a working knowledge of our firearms laws as well....
    Last edited by rick_iles; February 3rd, 2020 at 03:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbolt View Post
    Just because he "handled" guns @ police college doesn't make him an expert on current gun laws. I spent 30+ years in the military with all sorts of weapons and was still required to pass the firearms saftey course to get my PAL. Why is it such a problem to have someone actually understand the current laws before enacting something useless
    Well if you have passed your Canadian firearms SAFETY course you would be aware that the course is intended to teach the participants SAFE HANDLING OF FIREARMS .Very little is taught about Canadian Firearms Laws.

    MP Gallant states:
    "Even after decades of carrying a firearm Gun Confiscation Minister Bill Blair admitted he has not undergone the training on the rules for Firearms."

    What exactly does MP Gallant believe the "rules of firearms are". I think what we have here is a blowhard Conservative MP who does not know what she is talking about.I expect she probably has not taken the CFSC otherwise she would know what was taught.

    Minister Blair is very aware of all the current firearms laws and regulations and his background as a great street Cop and then Chief of Police makes him the ideal person in this portfolio.

    Do you really think this Gallant knows what she is talking about.

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    Last edited by Gilroy; February 3rd, 2020 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Well if you have passed your Canadian firearms SAFETY course you would be aware that the course is intended to teach the participants SAFE HANDLING OF FIREARMS .Very little is taught about Canadian Firearms Laws.

    MP Gallant states:
    "Even after decades of carrying a firearm Gun Confiscation Minister Bill Blair admitted he has not undergone the training on the rules for Firearms."

    What exactly does MP Gallant believe the "rules of firearms are". I think what we have here is a blowhard Conservative MP who does not know what she is talking about.I expect she probably has not taken the CFSC otherwise she would know what was taught.

    Minister Blair is very aware of all the current firearms laws and regulations and his background as a great street Cop and then Chief of Police makes him the ideal person in this portfolio.

    Do you really think this Gallant knows what she is talking about.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/natio...misfires-again
    Sorry I'm not buying it. I know this is painting with a very broad brush, but the majority of uniformed police do not know the current firearms laws. That has been proven many times. Just for that reason I carry a current copy of safe storage and transportation in my range bag. I'm done here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbolt View Post
    Sorry I'm not buying it. I know this is painting with a very broad brush, but the majority of uniformed police do not know the current firearms laws. That has been proven many times. Just for that reason I carry a current copy of safe storage and transportation in my range bag. I'm done here!
    That,s good,no need to answer my questions I understand. I,am not buying what MP Gallant is selling either because her bread and butter is dependent on keeping good grace with the gun lobby so she is basically working beholding to them.

    In relation to LEO,s not having good knowledge of the firearms laws I agree in part. But the laws were made to complicated because previous governments bent over backwards to accommodate the firearms owners and hence you end up with for instance complicated laws all different in wording for transportation,storage,display.......

    The amount of laws officers have to know today are vastly different from 30 years ago and there is only so much time for training in different laws, just because you belong to a special interest group does not mean your special.IMHO

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    Hats off to the instructor and MP Gallant to support this.
    What a great idea, hopefully many politician will participate and hopefully respect gun owners after understanding the process involve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    That,s good,no need to answer my questions I understand. I,am not buying what MP Gallant is selling either because her bread and butter is dependent on keeping good grace with the gun lobby so she is basically working beholding to them.

    In relation to LEO,s not having good knowledge of the firearms laws I agree in part. But the laws were made to complicated because previous governments bent over backwards to accommodate the firearms owners and hence you end up with for instance complicated laws all different in wording for transportation,storage,display.......

    The amount of laws officers have to know today are vastly different from 30 years ago and there is only so much time for training in different laws, just because you belong to a special interest group does not mean your special.IMHO
    Your always be "Special"... of the 10 Special ed kids in my high school, 4 became cops. The other 6 work for the city.... go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    You should not be voting in these Conservative MP,s if you believe they have no clue about Canadian gun laws.I am very aware that LEO,s do not require a PAL or an RPAL but that does not mean that they do not possess these licenses,I know scores of LEO,s that are both hunters and some target shooters.
    I know for a fact these ones did not have a PAL.
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    This initiative from MP Gallant is an excellent way to ensure that MP’s understand what they are voting for. It’s well known many LEO don’t know the legislation we pay them to enforce. Not a slight on them as they likely were never trained. I would actually take it much further. The firearms the libranos want to confiscate are mostly restricted ones. It should be “mandatory” that they take and pass the RPAL course along with full background checks to be eligible to vote on gun bills. To resist educating legislators certainly exposes partisan bias and disregard for effective laws and government. Confiscating firearms from licensed owners who follow safe storage and usage legislation will have no effect on the “demographic” who use them to commit crimes. Just virtue signalling that will use borrowed money that would be better spent hunting down gangs who trade in guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deer Hunter View Post
    Hats off to the instructor and MP Gallant to support this.
    What a great idea, hopefully many politician will participate and hopefully respect gun owners after understanding the process involve.
    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    This initiative from MP Gallant is an excellent way to ensure that MP’s understand what they are voting for.
    That was my take on this endeavour by Cherly. Not likely attended by the hard core MPs that won't be swayed but maybe some will take the opportunity to open their eyes to what not only what a large percentage of their riding constituents are trying to tell them but also what the RCMP commissioner told them in her report.

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