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    Some excellent work hunting in the mountains at various ranges. Many of the shots are high shoulder and neck, instead of behind the shoulder into the chest.
    Last edited by sawbill; February 12th, 2020 at 07:52 PM. Reason: At this time you can discuss the merits or drawbacks of long range shooting. The video is disturbing to many.

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    Talent in their shooting ability, for sure. I wouldn't go so far as to automatically label them good hunters though. They don't ever get within 350 yards of an animal. They could be, but there's nothing in the video to show good hunting technique aside from some spectacular kill shots.

    If they truly are hunting for the meat, which the disclaimer at the start of the video states, high shoulder shots are not ideal. They're ideal for putting antlers on the ground quickly though.

    Appeals to some I suppose and good slow motion effects in the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW11 View Post
    If they truly are hunting for the meat, which the disclaimer at the start of the video states, high shoulder shots are not ideal. They're ideal for putting antlers on the ground quickly though.

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    Isn't killing an animal as fast as possible considered ethical, or would it be more ethical to watch them run off?
    The talent is not only shooting but being in good enough shape to get up in the mountains and haul out big animals by foot. Mountain hunting is a very physically demanding sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Isn't killing an animal as fast as possible considered ethical, or would it be more ethical to watch them run off?
    The talent is not only shooting but being in good enough shape to get up in the mountains and haul out big animals by foot. Mountain hunting is a very physically demanding sport.
    Fair point on the physical aspect. I get tired enough going up and down ridges here in Ontario. Mountain hunting would definitely be physically demanding.

    As to the high shoulder shot, although it puts them down quickly, they aren't dead as fast as when you take out the heart or double lung shot. The running off part can be a bit inconvenient because you might have to track 100 yards, but they're dead on their feet.

    There's no denying that knocking them down in their tracks is pretty satisfying. I've made some high shoulder shots (mostly unintentionally), but generally they require a finisher. However, I suppose if you have to cover 400 yards to get to the animal, it'll likely be dead by the time you get there. My reference is more to high shoulder shots inside 100 yards, and you can be to the animal within a short time (minutes). In every case where I've hit high shoulder, I've had to shoot it again when I get to it.

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    Its not faster killing an animal that runs after being hit through the lungs or heart. Having an animal drop stone dead from a CNS shot is the fastest way to kill game, the guys in the video demonstrate this with a few of the shots.

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    They certainly made some great shots but it leaves me to ponder how many ran off wounded. There was a number of times I heard "shoot him again". I'm not so sure it was CNS shots they were going for but perhaps just where the bullets landed. I somehow doubt the headshot on a 717 yard bear was intentional.

    I'm not trying to take away from the hunt that these guys choose to participate in, to each their own. The work still has to go in to the hunt and they put the work in to get there. I do believe you are really stretching things a bit to use it as a high shoulder shot showcase. There were definitely a couple bang flops but there was far more that didn't flop immediately and some that the scene was cut away pretty quickly.

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    I absolutely agree with you , Lot of hunters are not capable to shoot at long distance ...
    They like or not that is the truths ... Now days the better rifle and a scope helps ...
    But it is not ethical to shoot past 300-400m ...

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    They certainly made some great shots but it leaves me to ponder how many ran off wounded. There was a number of times I heard "shoot him again". I'm not so sure it was CNS shots they were going for but perhaps just where the bullets landed. I somehow doubt the headshot on a 717 yard bear was intentional.

    I'm not trying to take away from the hunt that these guys choose to participate in, to each their own. The work still has to go in to the hunt and they put the work in to get there. I do believe you are really stretching things a bit to use it as a high shoulder shot showcase. There were definitely a couple bang flops but there was far more that didn't flop immediately and some that the scene was cut away pretty quickly.

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    I'm not at all trying to showcase anything, it is very apparent that theres more than just one place to shoot to take game cleanly and ethically. Some may not agree, but the sad part is people try saying its not an ethical or ideal shot just because it's not in the chest.
    Not sure why a moderator would take down a hunting video on a hunting forum, nothing showing any illegal activity?..I guess hunting is now considered disturbing on a hunting forum?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfoldivandor View Post
    I absolutely agree with you , Lot of hunters are not capable to shoot at long distance ...
    They like or not that is the truths ... Now days the better rifle and a scope helps ...
    But it is not ethical to shoot past 300-400m ...
    Why is not ethical, please explain.

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    Hunters will not able to hit the target (that is not a problem ... )
    The problem is that they will not hit the vitals ... and the game will run away and will be lost ...

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    Why is not ethical, please explain.

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