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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    You keep your AR and they will make room for you I am sure.
    Just curious what will happen if the gun confiscation goes ahead. There will be a pile of stripped down AR receivers handed in - minus trigger, bolt carrier, mag, mag release, sights, barrel, & stock. That is the only restricted (now prohibited) component.

    Wonder what the gov't will do with 3D printers........this technology is improving in leaps and bounds.

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    Next up Registry for 3D Printers, Machine Shop Equipment and special License to buy metal.

    Oh and your not allowed to think anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Just curious what will happen if the gun confiscation goes ahead. There will be a pile of stripped down AR receivers handed in - minus trigger, bolt carrier, mag, mag release, sights, barrel, & stock. That is the only restricted (now prohibited) component.

    Wonder what the gov't will do with 3D printers........this technology is improving in leaps and bounds.
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Just curious what will happen if the gun confiscation goes ahead. There will be a pile of stripped down AR receivers handed in - minus trigger, bolt carrier, mag, mag release, sights, barrel, & stock. That is the only restricted (now prohibited) component.

    Wonder what the gov't will do with 3D printers........this technology is improving in leaps and bounds.
    If you stop and think about it, the idea that only modern( black plastic stock ) rifle are dangerous is so stupid.

    The best trained and equipped ( with crap so advanced you can only imagine it ) are shot at and killed with rifles like the Martini-Henry every day.

    The Martini-Henry is at least 150 years old, and uses a straight wall black powder cartridge.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini%E2%80%93Henry
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Just curious what will happen if the gun confiscation goes ahead. There will be a pile of stripped down AR receivers handed in - minus trigger, bolt carrier, mag, mag release, sights, barrel, & stock. That is the only restricted (now prohibited) component.

    Wonder what the gov't will do with 3D printers........this technology is improving in leaps and bounds.
    Uppers are on the prohib list too now, not just the lower receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    Uppers are on the prohib list too now, not just the lower receiver.
    Uppers, or associated components are not restricted - they have never been part of the restricted registration process. I can buy an aftermarket upper and add a custom bbl, aftermarket stock & trigger.

    When and if the time comes to hand them in one can just say they were just starting a custom build when the ban took effect and this was as far as they got. The components were non-restricted and could be sold to anyone with a valid firearms license (pre-ban).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Uppers, or associated components are not restricted - they have never been part of the restricted registration process. I can buy an aftermarket upper and add a custom bbl, aftermarket stock & trigger.

    When and if the time comes to hand them in one can just say they were just starting a custom build when the ban took effect and this was as far as they got. The components were non-restricted and could be sold to anyone with a valid firearms license (pre-ban).
    They were never part of the registration but they are now considered prohibited devices.

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    4 The upper receiver of any firearm referred to in item 87 of Part 1 of this schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    They were never part of the registration but they are now considered prohibited devices.

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    4 The upper receiver of any firearm referred to in item 87 of Part 1 of this schedule.
    That is nice......but honestly I was 1/2 way through a build

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    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    That is nice......but honestly I was 1/2 way through a build
    So because you were half way through a build does not mean that your AR upper is not a prohibited device anymore.

    "That is nice" is a great statement for someone trying to keep you from getting arrested for carrying around a prohibited device as a non-restricted firearm, but you do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    So because you were half way through a build does not mean that your AR upper is not a prohibited device anymore.

    "That is nice" is a great statement for someone trying to keep you from getting arrested for carrying around a prohibited device as a non-restricted firearm, but you do you.
    Fox,
    Once again you are jumping to some ill conceived conclusions that are quite frankly none of your business. Who said anything about "carrying around a prohibited device"? It is quite obvious that you are clueless about the AR platform.......now I can explain but I cannot help you understand. AR's are the Honda Civic's of firearms. You could buy a restricted stripped down lower and then build it from scratch (quite common - I have build several of them) or you can buy a complete firearm and strip the factory components such as bolt carrier, mag release, trigger group, stock, barrel, fore stock, & sights, and then one would buy and sell parts and upgrade the firearm as you go. So it will be quite conceivable that people will have a partially built firearm depending on what they were doing when the ban took effect.

    Now I suggest you pi$$ off and crawl back under your rock. I am getting very tired of your exaggerations and assumptions.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 410001661 View Post
    Fox,
    Once again you are jumping to some ill conceived conclusions that are quite frankly none of your business. Who said anything about "carrying around a prohibited device"? It is quite obvious that you are clueless about the AR platform.......now I can explain but I cannot help you understand. AR's are the Honda Civic's of firearms. You could buy a restricted stripped down lower and then build it from scratch (quite common - I have build several of them) or you can buy a complete firearm and strip the factory components such as bolt carrier, mag release, trigger group, stock, barrel, fore stock, & sights, and then one would buy and sell parts and upgrade the firearm as you go. So it will be quite conceivable that people will have a partially built firearm depending on what they were doing when the ban took effect.

    Now I suggest you pi$$ off and crawl back under your rock. I am getting very tired of your exaggerations and assumptions.........
    You can just go F yourself if you think I do not know what the hell I am talking about.

    The standard definition of a firearm in Canada is the receiver, which before this OIC did not include AR Uppers as the Lower was the receiver of the gun, this is why you would be able to buy a number of uppers without any license.

    What seems to evade your brain is the section in the OIC, let me repeat with a quote.

    "Other

    4 The upper receiver of any firearm referred to in item 87 of Part 1 of this schedule. "

    "Other" is a section in the RCMP release, item 87 of Part 1 of the schedule specifies AR-15, AR-10 and other AR style firearms being banned.

    Therefore, the Upper is now considered a prohibited device. If you are using an AR-15 upper on another firearm lower that is no a prohibited firearm you are still in possession of a prohibited device.

    I suggest you pi$$ off and go read the thing again.

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