Dipsy diver problem

[MarkB]

OK, first issue is on number 3 setting, there is so much "slip" that with or without the ring, it isn't THAT much difference. Basically when you go to a number 3 setting, you are positioning the dipsey so a lot of the water just glides over it, instead of it "biting" into the water ... so you are basically reducing drag. You want the smaller dipseys (without rings) to be the ones that go out far to the side. The larger dipseys (with rings or mag size) are going to be your deeper and closer to the boat divers.

Second issue almost certainly has to do with how fast you are letting out your divers. You have to go SLOW!! If not you can actually get the reel spooling out to fast, and the line that clips onto the dipsey gets behind the it, and then when you stop spooling, it loops over the swivel arm, and you're done. Slow ... it should be under constant pressure ... never should you see the rod tip loose and free, should always have a bend in the rod, and tension on the line. Always, and especially when you are in waves ... that's even worse.

[MarkD]

MarkB, thanks for your reply!
Yes, the second issue was resolved right away. I now know that I should release the line under pressure.
The first issue. You are saying that to keep the dipsy far side from the boat I would need smaller size dipsy or dipsy without 'O' ring? I thought right opposite... I thought that with ring dipsy will go deeper and on the side as well with shorter line out... I was wrong?...
Thanks for your input. Very valuable!

[chesapeake]

The #s on the divers set the direction of pull and the pitch of dive.

You can change a dipsy from port to starboard depending on which way you position the weight. A #1 setting will dive more but will not work out to the side as far as a #3 setting.

When running 2 per side of the boat. I like a 1 or 1.5 setting for my rod closest to my rigger. Which is a shorter dipsy rod then my next diver rod which is longer and the diver set to #3

In terms of lure placement in the water column depth wise and moving out away from boat. My riggers are my deepest rods. Then the dipsy on a #1 would be slightly higher and farther to the side. Then the dipsy on a #3 setting would be higher and farther away again.

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[Yedi]

how would you set your dispey's if it as just two rods and no riggers?

[MarkB]

The point is you will NEVER get deep with any dipsey set at 3 ... there's too much slippage. So those dipsies will always be set to run at shallower levels, likely where the water is around 50F/52F ... sure you can get deeper, but look at the dive curves, and you'll see you need to let out A LOT of line to gain any depth, up to a point, then it won't go deeper, even with a mag ring (it helps but not that much). If you want depth, you need to live with your dipsey set at 1 to max 1.5 setting. Those will have much steeper dive curves, as you know.

What we normally do is use mag dipseys or dipseys with the O ring on the inside lines set at 1, then we use the standard dipseys for outside lines set at 2.5 or 3.

[MarkD]

Thanks everybody for explanation. I understand it well now.
If you don't mind I ask more.
What kind of lure do you use behind dipsy? Should it be only lite lure (lite spoons) or we can use plugs and other water resistant stuff? Can I use divers, like diving wobblers etc? Diving lures could also give some additional depths. Would it work?

[MarkB]

Thanks everybody for explanation. I understand it well now.
If you don't mind I ask more.
What kind of lure do you use behind dipsy? Should it be only lite lure (lite spoons) or we can use plugs and other water resistant stuff? Can I use divers, like diving wobblers etc? Diving lures could also give some additional depths. Would it work?

Probably the most popular combination behind a dipsey is a spin doctor and fly ... and once you get into that, there's so many colors, it will make your head spin.

Some people use paddles and meat. That works too.

Anyhow research spin doctors and also something like A-TOM-MIK flies. Start with green stuff, with some glow in it.

[MarkD]

Thanks, right, I just forgot about it...
Question about spin doctor. Is it used mostly with divers or with donriggers as well? What I see, most people use spoons on downriigers....