Anyone managed to have trespassers charged?

[benjhind]

First off, a hunting license does not trump property rights. A CO may investigate to see if the land owner tagged the deer. That is illegal,but a phone call to MNR and the land owner will receive a tag in the mail and will get a reference number for a CO. Lost and found a deer.

If you find a deer you don't have to call MNR anymore, you just fill in a form on the internet:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/keep-dead-wild-animal

A ball is property of an individual. A deer is property of the Crown until it is lawfully possessed by an individual. You can lawfully possess a deer by tagging it. If you can't get on the property, you can't tag it. You can also lawfully possess a deer by clicking on the link above and filling out a form.

[Gilroy]

In response to the posting....did I not say that the property was posted........The guys in question were not people from next door the deer was not siezed...we like you city folk to come out and run all over without permisson....As they tried to tell us a name that was on the next road over that owned the property...It happens all the time...They have told us names of guys that have been dead for years..We usually know our neighbours ...we stick together

Oh now you have answered my question "the back of the property was also posted" OK thanks for that.

So why was the deer not seized?

Your comments about the city folk running all over you is like my experience up north but the locals are doing all the running over.Yup also using names of long dead ancestors who used to own the property decades before or the usual "we always hunted this place"
forgetting all the time they SOLD IT to the city folks.Works both ways seen it time and again over the years.Get used to it as the City folk are buying up land all the time put up for sale by your neighbors.The game then changes.

[Gilroy]

red foxx

"My position is that all hunters should have written permission to hunt on private property similar to that required on Manitoulin Island. Would make the issue cut and dry from a trespass perspective."


I agree would help the LEO,S and it would be mandatory to have on you, a direct contact number to the owner would be needed to verify who you are and so forth.

Now I know its a slippery slope to landowners maybe asking for payment for access but we are capitalist.

[Gilroy]

I own hunting property and I have it posted - I live permanently on one end of the land - my land is part woods and part field where my house is - I would not like it if some hunter parted his butt on my land and hunted - if I saw such a guy I would tell him that the land is private and he is not allowed to hunt there - mainly because I and my kids hunt there - if some hunter shot a deer in an adjacent property and it ran onto my land I would have no problems with him coming on my land to retrieve it - permission or not - it is just common curiosity -

To all of you so-called non- law breakers - everyone on this forum has broken laws at one time or another - some almost every day when they drive over the posted speed limit - others when they throw a gum wrapper out of their car window - keep a fish out of the slot size - smoke a joint - etc. - so please give me a break and don't preach to me about going on someone's land to get a wounded or dead deer -

What you might wish to do on your land is your business and the police will not get involved because there is no complaint.But the law makers via THE PEOPLE decided at some time that a law must be on the books to stop hunters from going onto private property without permission.As for your comments about all of us being law breakers another old one you know comes to mind "two wrongs don,t make a right". Right?

[finsfurfeathers]

If you find a deer you don't have to call MNR anymore, you just fill in a form on the internet:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/keep-dead-wild-animal

A ball is property of an individual. A deer is property of the Crown until it is lawfully possessed by an individual. You can lawfully possess a deer by tagging it. If you can't get on the property, you can't tag it. You can also lawfully possess a deer by clicking on the link above and filling out a form.

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There are legal recourses to access a property as already stated. Even though a land owner may refuse access to you an intervening LEO can aid in the recovery either present or not. Its not a race to tag a deer. If you need to claim someone else's deer you got more issues however I believe ownership lies with the person who initially killed the animal and is in the process of completing his mandated responsibility to tag their animal immediately at the place of recovery.

[Gilroy]

The key to me in all these threads is summed up in one one PREVENTION. I cant imagine anything worse than sitting in a tree stand freezing my ar.. off for two weeks and wondering all the time WHAT IF the deer I hit takes off onto this or that property, where I have not obtained some prior consent to go get it.

If the parcel you have owned/permission to hunt is so small or if you have bad relations with the guy next door maybe time for a rethink.

[finsfurfeathers]

The key to me in all these threads is summed up in one one PREVENTION. I cant imagine anything worse than sitting in a tree stand freezing my ar.. off for two weeks and wondering all the time WHAT IF the deer I hit takes off onto this or that property, where I have not obtained some prior consent to go get it.

If the parcel you have owned/permission to hunt is so small or if you have bad relations with the guy next door maybe time for a rethink.

Think the word your looking for is PREPARATION. Since the only way to prevent adverse situations is to stay at home. Your right prepare for the worse case scenario. If it means having a co's number on speed dial so be it. In life stuff happens and it is our responsibility to proceed in the most informed and legal recourse available.

[Gilroy]

Think the word your looking for is PREPARATION. Since the only way to prevent adverse situations is to stay at home. Your right prepare for the worse case scenario. If it means having a co's number on speed dial so be it. In life stuff happens and it is our responsibility to proceed in the most informed and legal recourse available.

I will stick with PREVENTION since one of the ways to prevent adverse situations from happening is to not set yourself up for them to happen in the first place. You can prepare all you want but if your hunting to small a parcel or neighbour does not like you can PREVENT any conflict taking place.Oh and then you can prepare to take off some where else.LOL

[redd foxx]

You can lawfully possess a deer by tagging it.

Wow!!! No you can't. See the section below of the FWCA that makes it an offence.

Illegally killed wildlife, possession

12. A person shall not possess wildlife that has been killed, injured or captured contrary to this Act or the regulations. 1997, c. 41, s. 12.

If you have killed a deer while trespassing without permission or shot one at night or shot one during the closed season.....you cannot legally possess it by putting a tag on it. You can try but if it was taken illegally and you possess it....it is an offence because it was illegally taken in the first place.

[benjhind]

Wow!!! No you can't. See the section below of the FWCA that makes it an offence.



If you have killed a deer while trespassing without permission or shot one at night or shot one during the closed season.....you cannot legally possess it by putting a tag on it. You can try but if it was taken illegally and you possess it....it is an offence because it was illegally taken in the first place.

Wow. You really missed the point there. If I said "I can drive a car", I suppose you'd say "No!!! You can't drive over people because murder is illegal!!!"