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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbear View Post
    Absolutely! And votes....don't forget votes.

    And when the day comes that they get restrictions placed on the number of handguns a guy can own, it will be easier to make the same pitch about long guns.

    They nibble away, bit by bit...progressively regressive. That's the way our government works.
    exactly. Every little bit hurts. The sales guy at Epps was telling me soon they will be engraving another serial number into firearms imported which means basically all of them. This is part of a small arms global bullsheet initiative. Imagine a guy bringing in a $15k Kreighoff trap gun and then having a number engraved on it? These guns all haver serial numbers already!!!!!
    Bit by bit, little by little they are killing us off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post
    Lol you beat me to it Gilroy. If it continued I was going point that out to.

    The fact that there in no consensus per say. Some peoples opinions (underscore that word) may be that the registry was the greatest thing sinced sliced bread. Other people opinions may be something else...Some people may feel its this or that. As Im fond of saying the world is rarely black or white ( when there consensus, when only a few last people will say yes or no), But no-one else's opinions count.

    Is said it when it started Welsh. I'm interested in results. Results that show this or that, measurable qunatifiable results that result in a near consensus. Few will argue for example that our storage laws help with suicides (not sure thats the best example, but it suffices for "on the fly").

    AFAIK theres really only a couple studies. Hell even leo arent entirely sure of the causes for this and that. So again, all we have are opinions. The CFA have their opinions, theres scant studies that conclusively prove a lot. We can say fairly safely, that as far as the results go...not much has changed. And on the heels of that, violent crime and gun related crime have been trending down for decades. If Im not mistaken mostly in tandem with the US. So.....isnt it fair to ask the question. Um with all the GC we have brought in......Shouldn't there be a very oticeable deviation? Maybe there is, dont know for sure ad really immaterial.

    The gun crowd if you will has for years, years argued. Leave us alone, Why dont you go after the real problem. Criminals. I also but this is just my personal opinion feel that we should be counting domestic violence in that, as well as mental health and suicide. Both of which some measures have been brought in. Its arguable if its enough, but again I would first look at why leo and the system too often are fails women and make more changes there, and while this is changing, why more research and preventative measures in suicides isnt done first ( people dont like to talk about that one).

    Our gun death per capita is these days around 2.7. When its parsed down to gun death related to crime. Around 0.5.

    So Im wondering just what the real problems are.
    Gangs/drugs etc certainly. Well as has been mentioned they arent having trouble arming themselves. This is inarguable I would think.Should that come as any surprise. They dont have any trouble getting hard drugs either........If politicians like Tory and at the fed/provincial level want to make noise about "making the streets safer". As JT recently said "We have to balance the rights of legal gun owners against public safety.

    Then go after the problem. Do things, that will produce results and as Trimmer and history has shown, half measures dont cut it. They adapt, as they are to the crackdown on smuggling. Theres all kinds of adages about treating symptoms and not the causes.

    That though might entire some political will. Getting "tough on crime" isnt exactly one of our strong suits

    damn iphones, phat fingers and auto spellers. Cant be bothered to edit
    It's never about saving lives. If it was the alcohol industry would have to be shut down. It kills millions times more people and destroys families yet its condoned and a huge part of global economies. Let's just be honest here. Gun owners are low hanging fruit for politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Now we will see how the courts handle this !

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    This guy was known to police for drug and weapons violations. They say if convicted he could face up to 10 years in prison. This guy should go straight to jail, no trail, no nothing Spend at least 10 years there then deported back to wherever he originally came from. Tory's stand should be with the judicial department, not the law abiding citizen...
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    Out in less than 3.
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    Out in less than 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo D View Post
    This guy was known to police for drug and weapons violations. They say if convicted he could face up to 10 years in prison. This guy should go straight to jail, no trail, no nothing Spend at least 10 years there then deported back to wherever he originally came from. Tory's stand should be with the judicial department, not the law abiding citizen...
    Well the current cost to keep a federal inmate is now $117,000 p.a. So ten years costs us 1.17million. The U.S. tried this method of throwing away the key but now are reversing that policy. This guy is probably a citizen so will not be getting deported anywhere,in fact he might even be born here.

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    Yes but let's add a twist to this. If someone was to shot a person for breaking into their house and say raping your daughter you would have the book thrown at you. Real criminals are generally treated with kid gloves .

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Well the current cost to keep a federal inmate is now $117,000 p.a. So ten years costs us 1.17million. The U.S. tried this method of throwing away the key but now are reversing that policy. This guy is probably a citizen so will not be getting deported anywhere,in fact he might even be born here.
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member

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    Instead of whining to another useless politician, why not tell your Chief to get off his political correct butt and hammer the thugs.

    Weak Pollitically Correct mayors and Police Chiefs are a large part of the problem.

    I never saw a law issue an arrest warrant nor apprehend a thug.

    Look at Rham and Chiraq, Illinois, same useless political type.
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