Reminder: EBR 012-9170

[trimmer21]

The public consultation period for this EBR posting will end January 11/17 if anyone is interested in putting in their $.02 worth. It looks like some small game species will be all lumped together for open seasons and bag limits regardless of which WMU we hunt. I'm not sure if it'll be good or bad. This EBR can be found on the Environmet Ministry website.

[MikePal]

I'm not sure if it'll be good or bad.

Yea, I never like it when they say things like "simplify regulations for hunters"....LOL..

[JBen]

And also recently announced (dec 14, open to Jan 30th)
EBR 012-9169
Small game and fur bearers, which is far larger in scope. In short, large scale changes to the way the MNR approaches management.

https://www.ebr.gov.on.ca/ERS-WEB-Ex...language=en%3f

[fishhawk]

I would like to see the limit of European hare be lowered.

[trimmer21]

And also recently announced (dec 14, open to Jan 30th)
EBR 012-9169
Small game and fur bearers, which is far larger in scope. In short, large scale changes to the way the MNR approaches management.

https://www.ebr.gov.on.ca/ERS-WEB-Ex...language=en%3f

That might be a problem. Their idea of management and our idea of management are two different things.

[Fox]

I would like to see the limit of European hare be lowered.

For a non-native species known to take over and destroy ecosystems in other parts of the world, ya right.


I don't know how you would comment on this, they are so vast and vague, they have no idea what they are going to change but it is sure to cost a heck of a lot of money.

[MikePal]

I don't know how you would comment on this, they are so vast and vague,

Your right Fox, reading thru the .pdf booklet "Small Game and Furbearer Management Framework" is an exercise in wading thru ministerial baffle gab; specifically written not to really say anything, very obtuse.

It's almost like the sole purpose is to re-write the regulations to include 'habitat' involvement to substantiate the "F" they adopted in the new MNR title.

[fishhawk]

For a non-native species known to take over and destroy ecosystems in other parts of the world, ya right.


I don't know how you would comment on this, they are so vast and vague, they have no idea what they are going to change but it is sure to cost a heck of a lot of money.

You are right they are a non native species but they have been here a while and considered a game animal with a open season and bag limit. You probably don't hunt them or care to see them around but other hunters in Ontario do. They are managed by the MNRF that's there job, I would like them to step in and do something before its to late and they go the way of the Bobwhite. I know they will do nothing about it, but I said I would like to see them do something.

[trimmer21]

Your right Fox, reading thru the .pdf booklet "Small Game and Furbearer Management Framework" is an exercise in wading thru ministerial baffle gab; specifically written not to really say anything, very obtuse.

It's almost like the sole purpose is to re-write the regulations to include 'habitat' involvement to substantiate the "F" they adopted in the new MNR title.

We really need to read the separate links at the bottom of the statement to try to get a grasp of what the OMNRF propose to do. You're sure right about bureaucratic bafflegab. That's the most masterful bullshytery I've seen for quite a while.LOL

[Fox]

You are right they are a non native species but they have been here a while and considered a game animal with a open season and bag limit. You probably don't hunt them or care to see them around but other hunters in Ontario do. They are managed by the MNRF that's there job, I would like them to step in and do something before its to late and they go the way of the Bobwhite. I know they will do nothing about it, but I said I would like to see them do something.

I grew up in Waterloo, used to go hunting for "Jacks" and only ever missed the jacks and shot cottontails.

I like the idea of a new hunting species but since they are not native and they bring no money they will not get the same protection, the same as the Hungarian Partridge.

Pheasants on the other hand, Chinese imports that the government can make a ton off of, they will bring those things into everywhere.

The european hares do have the potential to be as bad as hogs, we are actually lucky that we have native rabbits so that the predators already know what to do with them before things end up like Australia.

I honestly would like to see more protection for fence rows in SW Ontario for grouse and cottontails, varying hares as well, they used to be numerous but the change to the style of bush and the draining of swamps really hurt them.