Premier Wynnes response to my hydro rate complaint...

[terrym]

I cannot see the savings, delivery rate is the same as our hydro use and the 8% i can not find out what it is calculated on certainly not the price of the hydro.Perhaps if everyone paid the same delivery cost we might see a saving.

Hydro bills are deliberately designed so most don't understand them. They can then hide all kinds of things in there. She refused to itemize the additional carbon tax increases. You know with Liberals being open and transparent and all. If this government doesn't get kicked next election there is truly no hope left of repairing the damage and I predict massive tax evasion from tax payers. The underground/cash economy will boom.

[patvetzal]

And the CEO of Hydro one earns?
When I was working at the trade back in the eighties we were installing "scrubbers" on the coal units so they would no longer pollute. The politicians thought it would bring more votes to get ride of coal completely.

[MarkB]

Guys, do you want her to give you the real answer, really?

The real answer is ... "I had to find the money for the $1.5 Billion dollar Oakville scandal from somewhere ... yes, remember that criminal thing the Liberals did a few years ago. Oh, and now that you guys are actually trying to minimize power consumption ... we still have to make the same profit, so I've just upped the rates. There's a lot more that I'm hiding ... I decided to keep the billing so confusing (with delivery fees) that no one can actually understand what's going on (not even me). But heck as long as the cash keeps coming in, I don't plan on doing much. Hopefully the few pennies I throw back at you will keep you quiet. With Love, Your Premier"

[sambo]

Guys, do you want her to give you the real answer, really?

The real answer is ... "I had to find the money for the $1.5 Billion dollar Oakville scandal from somewhere ... yes, remember that criminal thing the Liberals did a few years ago. Oh, and now that you guys are actually trying to minimize power consumption ... we still have to make the same profit, so I've just upped the rates. There's a lot more that I'm hiding ... I decided to keep the billing so confusing (with delivery fees) that no one can actually understand what's going on (not even me). But heck as long as the cash keeps coming in, I don't plan on doing much. Hopefully the few pennies I throw back at you will keep you quiet. With Love, Your Premier"

Now that's good LOL

[waltman]

She obviously doesn't re-read her letters before sending them or she thinks we're all really dumb.

[Dythbringer]

She obviously doesn't re-read her letters before sending them or she thinks we're all really dumb.

She doesn't think we're all really dumb, she knows some of us are really dumb. There is no other way to logically explain how she can be defended by some people out there.

[terrym]

There are plenty of dumb ones to vote her in again. I wouldn't be surprised that she makes Brown look like a cross between Ghengus Khan and Hannibal Lechter next election. The PC's are the worst campaigners.

[Dythbringer]

There are plenty of dumb ones to vote her in again. I wouldn't be surprised that she makes Brown look like a cross between Ghengus Khan and Hannibal Lechter next election. The PC's are the worst campaigners.

She won't make Brown look like that. The Working Families Ontario will do that for her.

[JBen]

I always struggle with "blaming the cons". What are they supposed to do? The have had such a strangle lock on politics with the GTA and Unions in their back pockets.

Could they sweep stuff under the rug?
Yes obviously.

So what do you think the Liberals, Unions, WF's response to that approach would be.
Accuse them of having "secret agenda's", attack them, say they aren't being honest, and to come clean. Remind their minions of Mike Harris and

done, they'd be toast every bit as much.
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great article in the papers last night re Hydro.
I have said for a long time the only "feasible" option for anyone be it Wynne, Brown or Horwath are subsidies. But they to will come at a cost. Will they take more $$ from healthcare to pay for it. Last I checked we need to be hiring more Nurses, not let letting more go. The MNRF or MoE? last I checked, they to......

Plunge us further into Debt?
Sell off the LCBO?.......

If I was at the helm, Id actually raise rates in the larger cities. Millions of people paying a little more, and pass that $$ to everyone in Rural Ontario, for whom life isn't quite as good or "painful" (its more-so) given they don't have cheap Nat Gas, don't get millions for subsidized public transit, don't get near the same amount of $ for economic growth ( Think about $$ used to create jobs, be it Air Canada, be it GM, be it Google, MaRs, be it oh so very much, or even helping to pay for the "sky dome", or Caribana, or the 407).....

If we can afford to subsidize toy cars $15,000 for those who can afford them, even with the subsidy, if we can afford to subsidize public transit and much more. All needed things, but all those things don't benefit everyone...Just those....

Surely, we can afford to subsidize neccissites of life ( Hydro and heat) especially given, its rural Ontario having wind farms rammed down their throats, to feed the beast and bright lights of the cities........And its not as though the big cities don't already reap big benefits, that are paid for by everyone.

Though we know she won't have the stones to call spades spades, do the right thing, and or turn her vote blocks against her anymore than she utterly has to.

http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/col...could-go-wrong

[JBen]

Consider this.
Federally, the wealthier provinces help make life a little better for the have nots. aka Transfer payments. While it may not be perfect it "works". All 10 provinces pay taxes relative to their ability. And the wealth gets spread around. In part because those provinces "with the most" also receive a lot in the way of economic growth, job creation, etc.........

But provincially?
its near the opposite, goes the other way. The engines get the most, and it makes sense but............it stops there.