Idiot truck manufactures

[Snowwalker]

Be sure to tell us what you find to be the problem. Fusable link.. thermal protection messing up...

[greatwhite]

So latest updates. Parts Source doesn't do a load test just a basic test. So I cam back home. I bought some alligator clips so I could lengthen the wires and test the current. Everything reads fine. Even hooked the starter up out of the truck and it turns over when I turn the key. The strange parts is the volt meter in the truck reads only 10 volts. Maybe that is because the engine isn't running. I'm going to put the starter back in tonight and see what happens. But even if it does start that tells me nothing as it could do this again when I am camping.

I wonder if the starter would turn if the Neutral Safety switch was done or the ignition switch was done? Will see what happens when I put it back in first. It is still possible that the starter is done because they did not test it under load.

[rf2]

If the NSS is not telling the computer that the vehicle is in park or neutral, the vehicle won't crank at all - at least that was my experience. It was an intermittent problem for me, so just because your truck cranked when you tried it today, doesn't mean the NSS is fine. Next time you run into this problem, just try switching back and forth between park and neutral and cranking in both positions. If it starts, then the NSS might be the problem.

If the starter is the problem, my guess is that you will put the starter back in and it will crank right up. Sometime in the near future, you will have a similar problem, so carry a hammer and whatever length solid material you need to be able to bang on the starter while someone cranks it. When you get tired of that, just change the starter and solenoid.

[greatwhite]

I'm going to have to figure out what the real issue is. Cant take a chance of it not working when I am out in the bush. Going to take it to an old fella who came highly recommended, which is where I should have taken it the first time. So it will be Monday before I put the starter back in.

[LiveBates]

I probably won't be much of assistance, but i've been reading thread and think I might be on to somethin'.
Step 1) Move the Mrs' car out of the car port.
Step 2) Slowly push said truck into carport beside woodpile.
Step 3) wait another week for strong wind gust.
Step 4) re-stack wood and claim insurance for new Pick-up.

Your Welcome

[trimmer21]

I probably won't be much of assistance, but i've been reading thread and think I might be on to somethin'.
Step 1) Move the Mrs' car out of the car port.
Step 2) Slowly push said truck into carport beside woodpile.
Step 3) wait another week for strong wind gust.
Step 4) re-stack wood and claim insurance for new Pick-up.

Your Welcome

Roll the truck away from wife's car AND the house. POOF!! "I don't know. I was having electrical trouble with it all week. Must have been a short,I guess."

[greatwhite]

I was thinking something more extreme get a real big fire going in the garage wood stove.............

Roll the truck away from wife's car AND the house. POOF!! "I don't know. I was having electrical trouble with it all week. Must have been a short,I guess."

I probably won't be much of assistance, but i've been reading thread and think I might be on to somethin'.
Step 1) Move the Mrs' car out of the car port.
Step 2) Slowly push said truck into carport beside woodpile.
Step 3) wait another week for strong wind gust.
Step 4) re-stack wood and claim insurance for new Pick-up.

Your Welcome

[northernontario]

Couple years back had a no-start issue on my '02 F150. They've got a solenoid on the firewall, and a second solenoid on the starter. The solenoid on the firewall froze... everything in the truck worked, power to everything, and when you turned the key nothing happened, not even a click.

In the process of diagnosing out in the bush (-30C, 100km away from a cell tower), I had the ignition on, and turned the heater fan on high for a minute (recommended in the manual when boosting off another vehicle, to prevent voltage spikes... not that it applied to me as I was boosting off a 2nd battery on my own). Reached back inside, turned the key, and it fired up.

The solenoid had frozen; but the connection points act as a point of resistance. Running the fan drew enough power to warm up the solenoid, as it's the solenoid that also passes power to the fuse panel for everything else in the truck... warmed up enough that it unfroze and started.

[greatwhite]

I'm taking the starter two a place that rebuilds them to test it this week. However if it doesn't work when I put it back in this week I'm going to by pass the ignition and put a push button in.

Couple years back had a no-start issue on my '02 F150. They've got a solenoid on the firewall, and a second solenoid on the starter. The solenoid on the firewall froze... everything in the truck worked, power to everything, and when you turned the key nothing happened, not even a click.

In the process of diagnosing out in the bush (-30C, 100km away from a cell tower), I had the ignition on, and turned the heater fan on high for a minute (recommended in the manual when boosting off another vehicle, to prevent voltage spikes... not that it applied to me as I was boosting off a 2nd battery on my own). Reached back inside, turned the key, and it fired up.

The solenoid had frozen; but the connection points act as a point of resistance. Running the fan drew enough power to warm up the solenoid, as it's the solenoid that also passes power to the fuse panel for everything else in the truck... warmed up enough that it unfroze and started.

[greatwhite]

So had a shop in Chrysler Ont test my starter fella use to rebuild them but sold his equipment, he said the starter was very weak so I am going to replace it. Got a price of 145 with core return on new starter, but waiting on a friend as I might be able to get it cheaper. Busy most of this week so hopefully get it put in on Saturday or Sunday.