Utility Trailer Question

[MikePal]

With a few mods and some TLC that should do you nicley...good find GW !!

[greatwhite]

Actually will probably make the rails in 3.5 ft sections so they can be lifted out if need be. The trailer is 6 ft wide so we can probably put the ATV's across it allowing room for up to 3. Considering what it was used for and that it has 16 inch tires the axle should be quite beefy. But we need to try and keep it under 450 KG (1000 pounds), which I think we can probably do. My Jimmy can only tow according to the manual 4500 pounds. I towed about 3000 last year.

[Tony Mo]

You may find this helpful...sorry about the quality.

If you would like a "better" copy, send me a PM and I can email it to you.

[last5oh_302]

^^^ that's the same page handed out at the scales, however an SUV, passenger vehicle, minivan, etc are NOT commercial motor vehicles (unless registered and plated as such) so if anyone gets charged when driving one of these I'd challenge it. I've never liked that page because I don't think it's accurate.

Commercial vehicle safety

[COLOR=#000000]A commercial motor vehicle is:

• a truck or highway tractor with a gross weight or registered gross weight of more than 4,500 kilograms (kg)
  OR
• a bus with a seating capacity for ten or more passengers

[COLOR=#000000]Compliance with commercial vehicle regulations is enforced on-road by Ministry of Transportation enforcement officers and police officers, as well as through facility audits.
[COLOR=#000000]Ministry officers and police conduct inspections on commercial vehicles to make sure they are being operated safely by qualified drivers. Where a commercial motor vehicle or trailer is found to be in such an unsafe condition that it endangers other people on the highway, the vehicle may be prohibited from operating until required repairs are made.
[COLOR=#000000]Commercial vehicle drivers and companies that fail to comply with many of these requirements may be fined up to $20,000.

Safety inspections

[COLOR=#000000]Periodic inspections are required for commercial motor vehicles, trailers and converter dollies. These inspections help reduce collisions caused by mechanical defects and improve highway safety throughout Canada.
[COLOR=#000000]There are three safety inspections:

1. annual
2. semi-annual
3. safety standard certificates

[COLOR=#000000]The annual and semi-annual inspection requirements are the minimum requirement under the law. You may find that additional inspections and maintenance are required to properly maintain your vehicle's on-road standards.

Annual and semi-annual inspections

[COLOR=#000000]An annual inspection is valid for 12 months.
[COLOR=#000000]Trucks, trailers and converter dollies, alone or in combination, with a total gross weight, registered gross weight or manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4,500 kg require an annual inspection.

• Total gross weight: the weight transmitted to the highway by the truck and/or trailer - includes the driver, passenger, fuel, equipment, tools, cargo, etc. carried by the truck and/or trailer
• Registered gross weight (RGW): the maximum weight based on the fees paid for the truck licence plates - indicated in kilograms on the right (plate) portion of a truck's ownership next to "REG. GROSS WT." (trailers and converter dollies do not have a RGW)
• Manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating (MGVWR): the maximum weight a truck is safely capable of weighing as declared by the manufacturer - indicated on the vehicle's vehicle identification number (VIN) plate

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tru...irements.shtml

[patvetzal]

I didn't engrave any VIN number, but thanks for making me go check just noticed I must have lost my ownership for it. I will have to go buy a replacement. Wonder what that will cost?

Won't cost much as long as you have your old plate. You will be given or allowed to choose a vin number that you should etch onto your trailer

[patvetzal]

About a year ago my buddy got stopped in a checkpoint at the arena on 28 just east of P'boro while bringing me a Jeep Liberty on a homemade trailer. He was towing with a Grand Cherokee, no trailer brakes.
The mechanic noticed that his emergency brake cable was dragging so told him that he could not drive anyplace, with or without a trailer.
When he phoned me I borrowed a new pickup that had a yellow sticker, then rented a tandem trailer from the local rental. This also had a yellow sticker.
I got to the yard about 3pm and explained that I would be switching the Liberty to the rental trailer. The MTO explained that this would not work as the sticker on the rental had expired two years ago and I could not tow it with an expired sticker, even empty....
The OPP on the scene took us aside and explained that since they went off duty at 4pm, we should decide quickly as after four there would be no one around to check our rigs for legality...suggested that we go into town for a coffee while we planned our choices.
By the time we returned the parking lot was deserted....

[Fisherman]

Another hidden gem: It may save you getting the yellow tag.
Light trailers that transmit to the highway a total weight of 2,800 kilograms (6,173 lb.) or less are not included in determining registered gross weight.

To determine how much an attached trailer transmits to the highway and how much a truck should be registered for:

1. Weigh the truck only, with the trailer attached.
   Illustration One - Weighing a truck only - Weight A
   
2. Weigh the trailer only, with the trailer attached to the truck.
   Illustration Two - Weighing a trailer only - Weight B
   

If the trailer weighs more than 2,800 kg (6,171 lb.):

• register the truck for at least the combined weight of the truck and trailer, weights A and B

If the trailer weighs 2,800 kg (6,171 lb.) or less:

• register the truck for at least the weight of the truck (weight A), which includes trailer tongue weight
• weight transmitted directly to the ground by the trailer is not included in the RGW

[last5oh_302]

^^^^ that has nothing to do with the yellow tag and again, it only pertains to commercial motor vehicles.

That just deals with RGW.

[Tony Mo]

Q15: Is my pickup truck a commercial motor vehicle and does it need a CVOR?
The Highway Traffic Act considers all pickup trucks to be commercial motor vehicles, but a pickup truck only needs a Commercial Vehicle Operator's Registration (CVOR) certificate if it has an actual or registered gross weight of more than 4,500 kg.
A personal-use pickup truck means a pickup truck that:

• is being used for personal purposes without compensation
• has a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of 6,000 kg (13,227 lb) or less, and is fitted with either:
  
  • the original box that was installed by the manufacturer, which has not been modified, or
  • a replacement box that duplicates the one that was installed by the manufacturer and has not been modified
  
  
• is not carrying or towing a trailer carrying commercial cargo or tools or equipment of a type normally used for commercial purposes

[trimmer21]

So,if the GVWR is under 5 tons,there's no safety certificate required?