Running Coyotes and Trespassing

[Camoman]

A friend of mine is just finishing off his new house getting ready to move in this weekend. He is building the house on 125 acres of farmland located in Amaranth (west of Orangeville). He was out between the house and the barn yesterday to watch a three men get out of a truck and release dogs into his field. The men then proceeded to follow the dogs going west behind the barn. At this point they met my friend (he is an avid hunter) to begin answering why they thought they could simply release dogs and trespass on his property. Apparently the weak response was "I know your father".
Sometimes stupid knows no limit.

Did he know his father or is he new to the area?

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[DGearyFTE]

Did he know his father or is he new to the area?

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I was being kind, my friend's father had run them off his land as well. As per my original statement... can't fix stupid!

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[bodycount]

Trimmer21 I would like to see one of you big talkers shoot one of my hounds. You realize its a big deal if you shoot someones dog you will have so many charges laid on you. And when I'm done talking you to court you will be living in a cardboard box. All you guys talk a big game when it comes to shooting someones hound but you would never do it. its easy to hide behind a computer and talk tough. lol

[fishermccann]

BC what would you recommend to correct the problem? How many chances 1-2...?

[greatwhite]

Are you saying you have the right to release your dogs on private land and let them run?

Trimmer21 I would like to see one of you big talkers shoot one of my hounds. You realize its a big deal if you shoot someones dog you will have so many charges laid on you. And when I'm done talking you to court you will be living in a cardboard box. All you guys talk a big game when it comes to shooting someones hound but you would never do it. its easy to hide behind a computer and talk tough. lol

[finsfurfeathers]

Trimmer21 I would like to see one of you big talkers shoot one of my hounds. You realize its a big deal if you shoot someones dog you will have so many charges laid on you. And when I'm done talking you to court you will be living in a cardboard box. All you guys talk a big game when it comes to shooting someones hound but you would never do it. its easy to hide behind a computer and talk tough. lol

Commentary on what's wrong with our country. The person who's paying the taxes has to take a back seat to a freeloader.

[SongDog]

Are you saying you have the right to release your dogs on private land and let them run?

Not sure how you got that from his post but I agree anyone that shoots a dog for being on their property is asking for a lot of trouble, unless it's harassing your livestock.

I was running hounds yesturday sitting on the sideroad where we do not want dogs to cross. Had 5 different locals stop me and tell me they have had coyote problems and want us to run their land. One lady owns a 300 acre horse farm and was so glad we are out coyote hunting, told me to go on her land anytime.

If coyote crosses into property we can't hunt we wipe the track clean the best we can then stand on the track and catch the hounds. Still not the easiest thing to do, pulling a hound off a hot track makes for a very peeved off dog.

I have never released dogs on property I don't have permission but when they are on a coyote they can cross country very fast. I've had to skip roads before with the truck to cut them off. Most people are forgiving If I ask to go on their land to catch dogs, I will ask if I can bring my gun incase I see the coyote and shooting it is fastest way to end it. Helps that we have run hounds here for 30 years at least and know all the farmers.

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[trimmer21]

Trimmer21 I would like to see one of you big talkers shoot one of my hounds. You realize its a big deal if you shoot someones dog you will have so many charges laid on you. And when I'm done talking you to court you will be living in a cardboard box. All you guys talk a big game when it comes to shooting someones hound but you would never do it. its easy to hide behind a computer and talk tough. lol

Landowners and their agents are absolutely within their rights to shoot dogs in protection of livestock,property or people when they're found running on private property. They may also sue dog owners for all damages caused at the same time dealing with FWCAct charges for "trespassing to hunt" when using hounds that are running on private property and any and all applicable municipal by-laws. You won't be laying charges against anyone,there,Mr.Tough Guy. You'll be dealing with enough of your own.

[DGearyFTE]

Sadly, one of the core issues is that in Canada we really don't have property rights and protecting your property rights is a quick way to end up in court facing charges. It is a sad state reality. In the post I made within this thread, that instance was a blatant act by some very arrogant hunters. It is likely they have the same attitude that has been shared within this thread, that is, "If you shoot my dog I'll take you to court."
As much as those hunters that trespassed likely deserve to lose their dogs, I don't condone shooting a dog unless absolutely necessary. The fix is to make the fines more hefty for those who don't respect other people's property and for those of us who are responsible to condemn that behavior whenever we encounter it.

[trimmer21]

Sadly, one of the core issues is that in Canada we really don't have property rights and protecting your property rights is a quick way to end up in court facing charges.

Constitutional property rights and protection of property,under the law,are deemed two separate and distinct issues. While it may be illegal to shoot at simple trespassers in "protection of property",it's certainly not illegal to shoot at dogs when trespasser's animals are causing damage or presenting safety issues towards people and livestock.