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March 28th, 2017, 03:52 PM
#71
More BS from media and yes the "scientific community". Look these scientists need to earn a living and being highly educated they tend to feel entitled to a good one. Doing research that nobody is prepared to pay for isn't a good way to earn a living so I would guess many "scientists" eventually learn to pick projects that will provide them with good money. They then might be inclined to let's say find groups of people who would have an agenda ya think? The media will gobble up anything anti gun which will please groups bent on attacking gun ownership. These antigun groups aren't as good a source of money as the climate chance freaks but not a bad second choice.
As Jben always says. Follow the money.
Last edited by terrym; March 28th, 2017 at 03:55 PM.
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March 28th, 2017 03:52 PM
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March 28th, 2017, 03:53 PM
#72
slippery slope here on many fronts. any contact sport, go carts, swimming etc all have much higher rates of child injury than seen in the study. I can envision the government becoming more and more involved in how we raise our kids. I can only imagine what the injury rate is for kids involved in snowboarding or motocross
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March 28th, 2017, 04:00 PM
#73

Originally Posted by
bardern
slippery slope here on many fronts. any contact sport, go carts, swimming etc all have much higher rates of child injury than seen in the study. I can envision the government becoming more and more involved in how we raise our kids. I can only imagine what the injury rate is for kids involved in snowboarding or motocross
I used to race motocross when I was a kid and I bet hockey ( which is the holy grail here in Canada) is much worse but your point is bang on. If a kid is killed snowboarding it is treated very differently and the parents are not labeled the same as a family who loses a kid to a firearm incident. But then again the message is controlled by the media which is why people like Trump use Facebook to control the message.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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March 28th, 2017, 04:02 PM
#74

Originally Posted by
terrym
More BS from media and yes the "scientific community". Look these scientists need to earn a living and being highly educated they tend to feel entitled to a good one.
She is neither...her research is work/ career related. So her only vested interest is to make is safer for children and young adults...
I am a paediatrician, and wearing a paediatrician hat, I have a vested interest in keeping children and youth healthy and safe. That is where that comes from. All of my research looks at children and youth primarily. That’s the true way that this all started.
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March 28th, 2017, 04:07 PM
#75
did a quick check, thanks Mr Google
there are 21 hockey related requiring medical attention in Ontario every day. 21x more than childhood "firearm" injuries. 8000 per year.
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March 28th, 2017, 04:14 PM
#76

Originally Posted by
bardern
did a quick check, thanks Mr Google
there are 21 hockey related requiring medical attention in Ontario every day. 21x more than childhood "firearm" injuries. 8000 per year.
and as a result, the league was forced to implement non contact hockey until they were older....so what's your point exactly ?
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March 28th, 2017, 04:38 PM
#77
the point being Mike is that risk is inherent in any activity. the view that one injury is too many while admirable leaves us raising our kids in a bubble. 21 injuries per day as opposed to 1 shows how sensational the reporting of this study is.
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March 28th, 2017, 04:40 PM
#78

Originally Posted by
MikePal
and as a result, the league was forced to implement non contact hockey until they were older....so what's your point exactly ?
Thank goodness the anti knife league has not implemented anything to date.
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March 28th, 2017, 04:41 PM
#79
But kids being unintentionally 'shot' is not a voluntary activity...
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March 28th, 2017, 04:50 PM
#80

Originally Posted by
bardern
the point being Mike is that risk is inherent in any activity. the view that one injury is too many while admirable leaves us raising our kids in a bubble. 21 injuries per day as opposed to 1 shows how sensational the reporting of this study is.
Agreed that the media has sensationalized the study. And risk is inherent in any activity.
But there's nothing wrong with raising the flag and asking how we can prevent unnecessary injuries. We don't put our kids in full contact leagues without helmets, and tell them that high-sticking builds character. 
I'm betting that when the dust clears and all the work is done, we'll have found that these accidental injury numbers come from people doing stupid things.
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