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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    This could be real problem for some sectors. Take pellet pistols for example that retail for many times less than $100.
    Contrary to claims that this affects all kinds of pellet guns, this affects only firearms as defined in Canadian law, so this is probably a non-issue. And remember, it was the Harper government that estimated the cost per gun at $21, which is comparable to the real-world pricing of this service at $25 by IRunGuns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter John View Post
    Not sure what this UN marking scheme will actually accomplish.
    The goal is to enable guns used in conflicts to be tracked back to their origin. So if I import a bunch of SKS rifles, for example, and then sell them to someone who ships them out of the country in crates marked "tractor parts" to buyers in some little brushfire war, it will be possible to trace those back to the known legal importer.

    The problem facing people trying to choke off supply to people who send child soldiers into battle in Mali, for example, is that recovering a rifle in Mali and taking its serial number often leads nowhere useful. In reality, the regulations won't aid those investigators much, because (a) Canada is not known to be a big transshipment point for guns, (b) many weapons are already in circulation, and (c) many weapons come from known bad actors who won't comply with the protocol. But Canada and others sign onto these measures as much to show where the guns aren't coming from as anything else, and to put pressure on the bad actors.

    Obviously, these regulations do not apply to a wide range of guns, such as break-action shotguns, single-shot rifles, target rifles, target pistols, and so forth, which would not be used in conflicts. But rather than leaving potential loopholes open, the regulations include everything.
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    So it really accomplishes nothing that will prevent these arms from falling into nefarious hands but after crimes and atrocities are committed they can trace them back and find out they were imported into Canada By so and so importer. Sounds Brilliant to me.

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    Just start making guns in Canada again, open up the Cooey plant again and every Canadian that buys them will not have to worry about this tax. The cost is only on importing of firearms so anything already here or being made here will not be part of this cost.

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    Why bother. Is it really worth it. There are other options but may limit the game you're interested in.

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    It's not a tax, Fox. The money goes to the importer and covers his cost, plus markup. None of that money goes to the government.

    Another part of the regulation imposes marking requirements on Canadian manufacturers, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    It's not a tax, Fox. The money goes to the importer and covers his cost, plus markup. None of that money goes to the government.

    Another part of the regulation imposes marking requirements on Canadian manufacturers, by the way.

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    HAH! Nothing like an extra set of serial numbers to really nail it all down,eh,as if the first set isn't good enough? That's like having a gun registry for the gun registry....you know....in case the first one doesn't work? Only Liberals could think this is a good idea.LOL
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    The regulation does not require a second serial number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    It's not a tax, Fox. The money goes to the importer and covers his cost, plus markup. None of that money goes to the government.

    Another part of the regulation imposes marking requirements on Canadian manufacturers, by the way.

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    You sure about that? Everyone has to get their cut out of it.

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    There is no provision for the govt to collect money, per the regulation.

    The fee the importer tacks on would of course be GST taxable....

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