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April 10th, 2017, 09:36 PM
#61

Originally Posted by
Rugger
Had that issue with one of the vets last spring, pulled a half dozen ticks off of our dog over the season. This year we were lucky enough to get the ol timer vet and he said yes, Rev is not effective against tics but if you are ok with pulling them (which I am) he said best to go with Rev (for all that it does) and just vaccinate the dog against lyme, so we did that. Not asking about your thoughts on Rev and ticks asking if anyone else has come across the lyme vaccine.
I followed this advice at one time ... came back from hunting near Long Point one time & combed/pulled 54 ticks off the dog.
This is why I'm a fan of Nexgard. 
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"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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April 10th, 2017 09:36 PM
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April 11th, 2017, 03:37 AM
#62

Originally Posted by
be2man
We went with the Vanguard this year on the advice of the vet, only $30 (US). We go into Thursday for the booster. No brainer.
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April 11th, 2017, 04:23 AM
#63
So this Vanguard vaccine is a Lyme preventative, or is it a tick repellent?
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April 11th, 2017, 04:54 AM
#64
I get the Lyme vaccine for the dog every year but no one knows how effective it actually is so I don't take a chance. It can't hurt to give it but it may not be the best safeguard.
"You don't own a cocker, you wear one"
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April 11th, 2017, 05:23 AM
#65

Originally Posted by
awndray
So this Vanguard vaccine is a Lyme preventative, or is it a tick repellent?
It's a vaccine for Lyme disease....you still need to get 'insecticide' prevention for ticks/fleas. My vet recommends Bravecto so we're going to give it a try this year.
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April 11th, 2017, 05:52 AM
#66
The Lyme Vaccines are meant to neutralize the bacteria that cause the disease, not repel ticks. The Vanguard crLyme looks to be the best vaccine technology currently available. I was able to talk to Dr Richard Marconi, the vaccine's developer, at a Conference and he assured me that the vaccine prevented dogs developing Lyme related Arthritis and Nephritis and would also prevent dogs that were exposed to Lyme from seroconverting and testing positive on the Snap 4DX and Quant C6 tests in the future.
One of the unknowns with Lyme is how many dogs may develop subclinical arthritis and are never overtly lame, but don't perform as well as they might otherwise.
The current thinking is that even with treatment Lyme positive dogs are never completely free of the bacteria, that natural infection doesn't stimulate immunity and that dogs can get reinfected over and over again if not on a prevention program and in a Lyme endemic area.
If you live in an area where Lyme ticks are common I think the vaccine is an extra layer of protection but not a replacement for a good repellent or acaricide product.
More time will tell if this vaccine works as well in large scale use as it has in Clinical trials.
Dr Marconi is also working on a human vaccine for multiple tick borne infections.
It's surprising there's still no effective human vaccine for this serious illness that is reported to infect 300,000 people a year in the U.S. It's quite likely the development of this vaccine is a step on the road to getting a human vaccine approved.
Last edited by be2man; April 11th, 2017 at 05:56 AM.
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April 11th, 2017, 05:59 AM
#67
Oh, gotcha. Our little buddy has gotten the vaccine after testing 184 on the QC6. I'm trying to find the invoice to confirm the name, but that must be the one. I feel silly for not remembering.
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April 11th, 2017, 06:44 AM
#68

Originally Posted by
awndray
I'm trying to find the invoice to confirm the name, but that must be the one. I feel silly for not remembering.
I was under the impression that the Vanguard vaccine was relatively new, the published tech bulletin on it is dated 2015.
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April 11th, 2017, 06:51 AM
#69
Thanks for the info. So far all of our ticks have come from the Bancroft area I'm ok with removing a few every season, 54 in a day is another story. ..
Heeere fishy fishy fishy fishy! :fish:
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April 11th, 2017, 06:56 AM
#70

Originally Posted by
MikePal
I was under the impression that the Vanguard vaccine was relatively new, the published tech bulletin on it is dated 2015.
Whatever it is, I'll have to confirm when I get back home. This vaccine was administered a few weeks ago; and he'd been treated for Lyme in the past according to the shelter.