Janetville area turkey hunting ... help please

[dmichel]

Because if it's private land, you're not allowed to hunt there, unless you have permission....regardless if it's posted (No Trespassing) or not.

There are very few places in ontario that require you to have explicit permission. Generally if it's not posted then the owner is granting implied permission. If you disagree posted the law that says otherwise.

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[MikePal]

From the regs...

Trespassing

A person is trespassing if the person, without appropriate permission, enters onto property or engages in an activity on property where notice has been given that entry or the activity is not allowed. Notice may be given in a variety of ways; some of the common ones are verbally, signs, symbols or fences.

Lands under cultivation are also considered to be notice against entry. A hunting licence does not give a hunter the right to enter private property. ALWAYS ask for permission and obey signs.

Be sure you are familiar with the Occupiers’ Liability Act and the Trespass to Property Act before entering private land. (You may obtain these two acts from Publications Ontario or online at ontario.ca/e-laws.)

If you are on private property for the purpose of hunting or fishing and the occupier asks you to leave, if you do not do so immediately, or if you do not obey signs prohibiting trespassing, then you will also be violating the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997.

I've always gone by the bolded statement in the regs..otherwise your a trespasser.

edit add: that is why your not allowed to recover your deer from a neighbouring property if you do not have permission...it's not implied.

If it is not evident what activities are allowed, ask for permission from the landowner or occupier. Not all land is signed. Unsigned lands may be private land as well. (For example if the property is fenced, no access is permitted without permission of the occupier.) It is your responsibility to find out who owns the land you wish to hunt on and obtain permission. If unsure, stay out. If a wounded animal runs onto private property where you do not have permission to enter, you must seek the landowner’s or occupier’s permission to retrieve the animal. Positive landowner or occupier/hunter relationships are important to the future of hunting in Ontario.

[dmichel]

The acts that are referenced are the actual law and don't require permission in all circumstances.

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[I_cant_fish]

100% true. Obviously you would hope people would use common courtesy and sense when choosing their hunting spots but on the other hand I wouldn't stop myself from exploring or setting up on unposted land without a residence because of a couple silly opinions on this thread

[dmichel]

100% true. Obviously you would hope people would use common courtesy and sense when choosing their hunting spots but on the other hand I wouldn't stop myself from exploring or setting up on unposted land without a residence because of a couple silly opinions on this thread

Absolutely. Laws are written for everyone including landowners so I don't feel one bit bad going onto unposted land.

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[I_cant_fish]

From the regs...



I've always gone by the bolded statement in the regs..otherwise your a trespasser.

edit add: that is why your not allowed to recover your deer from a neighbouring property if you do not have permission...it's not implied.

Bolded statement says right there. Obey signs. No signs= no issues

[dmichel]

Bolded statement says right there. Obey signs. No signs= no issues

Exactly. Unless it's land under cultivation.

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[I_cant_fish]

Agreed. That or it's fenced or marked somehow.

Thanks guys. Hope this thread was as helpful for you as it was for me!

Happy hunting!

[GW11]

Bolded statement says right there. Obey signs. No signs= no issues

You guys are stretching your interpretation a bit there. No signs = the landowner will have a hard time pressing charges. No issues? Good luck with that. There are lots of things you can legally get away with but otherwise shouldn't do. Try walking down the street in downtown Toronto with an unloaded rifle you just purchased from the local shop slung over your shoulder. While legal it's hardly advisable.

For what it's worth I understand why it's quite an adjustment for you. I've hunted in Northern Ontario quite a bit and the general rule is unless it's posted, hunt away. The opposite is true down this way. You pretty well have to assume everything is private unless you can find out otherwise. Many landowners don't bother posting their property but it doesn't mean you'll have "no issues". Carrying on like you have a right to be on someone's property because it isn't posted won't do any of us any good.

[MikePal]

Wow..no wonder we have such a problem with how hunters are perceived by the landowners. A few bad apples spoil it for the rest.