Benelli Super Black Eagle 3

[jaycee]

This may be of interest to those buying , or have one of these; Benelli Super Black Eagle 3

[COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#330099]The Design Defect of the Benelli Super Black Eagle 3
[COLOR=#000000]Opinion by Randy Wakeman

[COLOR=#000000]SBE3 owner A: “When aiming it should hit at that spot, not a foot high plus. I had 3 other people try it and all shot the same. They threw in a bigger bead and said I can put this on the help it shoot lower on the water etc. Try shooting a gun that patterns like this at a turkey head. Where do you aim at each distance? Maybe I have a bad one, but just wanted to let you know what you may get. One of the guys at Benelli said once he learned to shoot his like this, no problem. I asked him what if you shoot different guns, do I relearn every time? If this is the new Benelli's, I guess I am through with them.”
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SBE3 owner B: “Patterned mine this afternoon with 6 different types of ammo out of the factory ic and mod. For one disappointed in the factory chokes, which has almost become accepted these days even in a close to 2000 dollar gun, makes you wonder if the big B's get a d**** kick back from aftermarket chokes to send a gun out with such terrible chokes. The worst part though is my gun is also shooting a foot high with i would say a 95/5 pattern at best.”
[COLOR=#000000]SBE3 owner C: “So went out and patterned my SBE3 today and mine shoots 100% high with my jebs choke next week I am going to shoot it with the full choke and see what it does at 20 yards. I thought it'd be a little high but most loads I shot were high with 2-6 pellets at the POA. This is kinda ridiculous if you ask me, I used the jebs choke the stock extended mod and a Carlson cremator mid range. All shot high.”
[COLOR=#330099][COLOR=black]"[COLOR=black]I bought a SBE3 about a month ago. 1st time I took it out seemed to fringe hit the ducks. Finally had to shoot at a cripple on the water. He was about 40 yrds out. Shot at him a couple of times & couldn't see where the BB's are hitting... Took it to a pattern board & it was shooting way high. I have shot all kinds of shotguns & several benelli's... I was using a 34X34 in piece of paper with a 3in bullseye. At a measured 35 yrds half of the pattern was at the top of the paper the other half over the paper. I tried different chokes etc. Called Benelli, they said they are made to shoot like that.To make a long story short sent it back & they said gun is fine, within their parameters."
[COLOR=#330099][COLOR=black]SBE3 owner D:[COLOR=black]"Then SBE III had just come out. The design selling points seemed to address the latter design annoyances. I bought an SBE iii with high hopes... and decided to check the POI and pattern of my SBE III.
[COLOR=#330099][COLOR=black]I can report that my results are the same as others report. I shot from a bench rest with no wind or into a head wind. the 3 shot pattern averages POI are 100/0, 12" high and 3" left at 21 yards with full choke and 1oz of 6s. POI with Brenneke slugs at 30 yards results are 15" high and 2" left and a 2" group. 00 buck also printed 15" high and 2" left. The results reveal a missed/wounded deer, a missed turkey, missed/wounded small game, or a missed threat. I conclude that my SBE III is precise and pathetic. I have zero confidence with SBE III "scatter gun" in the field, at the range, or in my home. I have pictures of my results and have sent the images to Benelli with request for an RMA."
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What is going on? Well, the Benelli patent published on October 1, 2003 offers the explanation. Inventor Luciano Burigana had the collapsing gap in his “stock for firearms” which later was sold as the “Comfortech” stock. The images from the patent tell the story.
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[COLOR=#000000]The original Comfortech stocks were fairly rigid, however, and didn't do much. The later generation of Comfortech stocks, the Comfortech II, offered more flex (as installed in my M2) and did a far better job of managing recoil. For the SBE3, the Benelli brand of Beretta has the Comfortech 3. Benelli says “The chevron size and location has been optimized on Comfort Tech 3.”
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[COLOR=#000000]The SBE3 stock has far more flex than previous Comfortech attempts and is more comfortable to shoot as a result. I can readily feel the difference with 1-1/8 oz. target loads. The unintended consequence of this is not taking the extra flex and more rapid stock gap collapse into consideration when machining the receiver. As a result of the close to instant collapse of the stock gap, the patterns throw excessively high, over the heads of turkeys, potentially crippling ducks with only the lowermost portion of the pattern, and so forth.
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[COLOR=#000000]The Benelli Nova Comfortech stock, above, has far less flex, does little for recoil attenuation, but also does not create nasty point of impact issues, either.

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[COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#000066]SBE3 buttstock

[COLOR=#000000]Many shotguns don't shoot to point of aim, to be sure. I actually prefer a hunting shotgun that throws slightly high. The “60/40” pattern that some like to talk about is only putting the center of the pattern three inches high at 40 yards. A 100 / 0 pattern is not an acceptable wingshooting pattern, as that is fifteen inches high at 40 yards.
[COLOR=#000000]As shooters are tragically finding out, the radically skeletonized buttstock of the Benelli SBE3 is a jellyfish, essentially guaranteeing not only an excessively high point of impact, but an inconsistent point of impact as well, ever-changing in concert with load intensity.
[COLOR=#000000]Reportedly Benelli's "official specs" are 0 - 6 inches high at 21 yards, within 4 inches of the bull horizontally, also at 21 yards. You can call that type of attempt at a tolerance what you wish: I just have to call it a nasty mess.

[fishhawk]

I too have herd of this model having this problem. To bad seems like a nice shotgun otherwise. Seems like an over engineered recoil system.

[dean.f]

Very interesting that they would go into full production with a problem like that. I'm surprised they would even mess with the sbe2 design. I consider myself to be a bit of a wimp for recoil, but I don't mind the sbe2 at all. Hopefully Benelli will acknowledge the issue and correct it.

[toddy]

Maybe this was the issue with the vinci as well. I sold mine for two reasons, its recoil was absolutely ridiculous and it shot 1-2 ft high at 30-40 yards. It was ridiculous guessing game when diver hunting. God I hated that gun. Felt nice to hold and point tho!