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July 17th, 2017, 06:31 AM
#11
It is the only way to actually make sure you have a spot to hunt.
I know a number of people who complain about all the work they put into private land only to have the land owner pull permission for one reason or another, if you really want to make sure you can hunt an area and nobody can say no to you then go buy some land well away from the city and hunt it.
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July 17th, 2017 06:31 AM
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July 17th, 2017, 08:07 AM
#12
If you are talking about buying land up north in crownlandville, then no its not worth it. But if your talking about buying land in the south and you can afford it then yes very good idea.
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July 17th, 2017, 08:31 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
Species8472
Depending on where it is this may or may not be true. As long as you pay a fair price it is not lost money as you can always sell and get your capital back out. As a general rule I won't borrow money to buy land. The exception to this being if I have the liquid assets somewhere than I may borrow if rates are cheap and my liquid assets are earning more money than the loan/mortgage costs. That way if the rates are high when renewal time comes around you can opt to pay off the mortgage/loan.
It also depends on what you are targeting. If you only hunt moose/bear and upland than I would stick with crown and camp. For deer and turkey though having land in a good WMU that you can actively manage and improve is rewarding and helps pass the time in the off season. You can also take your time and make it pretty comfortable even if it is off the grid.
My brother-in-law and I own property on the Saugeen river (WMU 82a) that is off the grid. We have a comfortable 16x20 cabin that has wood heat, solar panels and a windmill that provides power and running cold water via a dug well. Our neighbours on both sides have permission to walk their dogs on the property and in return they watch for trespassers. Oct 01 to Dec 31 they know to avoid the place. In 7 years we have only had one instance of trespassing that we know of.
Very thoughtful reply. What would you say a fair price for land? (where you know it)
"The dog is Small Munsterlander, the gun is Beretta."
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed" A. Saint-Exupery.
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July 17th, 2017, 08:53 AM
#14
I have asked myself this question for several years now. If you can use it year round as a cottage and take several different species. And it is not more than 4hours away, so can use on weekends. Oh and lets not forget the other half, if they want to be there and use it, then YES, it is worth it. Otherwise just get permission and hunt on other peoples property, but these shouldn't be a free ride either, make sure you bring the owner a good gift or something. I have only found one property that fits the bill for me, but can't justify the $500K or more to do what I mentioned above. Good Luck
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July 17th, 2017, 10:07 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
fishhawk
If you are talking about buying land up north in crownlandville, then no its not worth it. But if your talking about buying land in the south and you can afford it then yes very good idea.
Then do not complain if there are other people showing up, we used to be given crap by guys who "hunted this land for 50 years" I really do not care how long you have been hunting there, Crown land is Crown land, it is public and anyone hunting on it needs to be courteous of all of the others who use it, be they hikers, hunters, ATV riders, etc.
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July 17th, 2017, 10:13 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
vom Dufenshmirtz
Very thoughtful reply. What would you say a fair price for land? (where you know it)
In 82a where our property is you could probably find a 50-100 acre parcel with no improvements for +/- 200k. Water frontage or good ag soil will drive the price higher.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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July 17th, 2017, 10:20 AM
#17
I've always opted for hunting on Crown land that's less than three hours away,taking some overnight gear and making a couple of days of it simply because I enjoy the freedom to go wherever I want,not needing to answer to anyone. I'm not knocking buying private land to hunt if it's large enough (keyword:large),but,in my experience,it can be a real PITA if it's the southern part of Ontario. It's easier to knock on doors for permission.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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July 17th, 2017, 10:44 AM
#18
Has too much time on their hands
The biggest saying in Oxford County the last few years is.
Money grows in rows.
Wish I could have bought ten farms a few years ago. Thy have triple in price the last 10 years. If you can buy a farm with bush and good land you can rent out for crops you will never loose
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July 17th, 2017, 10:48 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
dutchhunter
The biggest saying in Oxford County the last few years is.
Money grows in rows.
Wish I could have bought ten farms a few years ago. Thy have triple in price the last 10 years. If you can buy a farm with bush and good land you can rent out for crops you will never loose
Buy the land with bush on it, clear the land and sell the logs/firewood, make back all of your investment and tile it/plant it and pay nothing to taxes.
Another example of people with money being able to get a lot more money quickly and those without money not being able to get by.
We see bush turn into farm land all the time, I know a few places where they flattened 500 acres, not even a sapling left, sell what they can and burn the rest.
Sad really, that is why our upland game are hurting.
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July 17th, 2017, 10:59 AM
#20
I bought three parcels of land when I arrived in eastern Ontario 7 years, 2 fifty acre plots and one one hundred acre plot. I love being able to transform those pieces of land into hunting paradises. Yup occasionally I battle trespassers who enjoy my hard earned land management by camping on the fence line come hunting season, but for the most part it is very rewarding to work on your own land for game improvement. At the end of the day I agree with the above it is an investment and at least in my area continues to go up in value as a bonus.
Rod Embree
KMG Hunting Safaris