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August 12th, 2017, 09:48 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
sabmgb
I don't know about the fines, I just think it is the right think to do as I believe this is how they decide on next years tags. Think about it, the don't have the money to go do their own surveying any more. So people don't call in their downed turkey, stats say on kills are down so they going to figure that the bird population is down and reduce the taking of 2 birds. Just my opinion
I sure hope that OMNRF biologists don't use the survey results to "extrapolate" the stats for future tag allotments without gleaning other information sources from the boots on the ground. I don't believe for one second that the results accurately reflect actual harvest results simply because of non-compliance or manipulation due to a huge mistrust of government by the outdoors community. After speaking with many hunters over the last few years from all over the province,I was stunned to hear what some deliberately misrepresent believing that the sole purpose of harvest reporting is to adjust stats downward to restrict further game harvest. In my heart,I know that those sentiments are really off-the-wall,but,it is what it is.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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August 12th, 2017 09:48 PM
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August 13th, 2017, 02:02 AM
#12
I was told that back when they were mail in Questionnaires that only 6% of hunters returned them. We're our own worst enemies, squawk at the government for inaction, yet fail to do our small part.
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August 13th, 2017, 07:18 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
I have hear that if you fail to send in a controlled hunt report, you are not eligible to get a tag the following year. I don't know if this is the case or not. I have never taken the chance and not reported.
That is what they penalty is supposed to be for not completing the mandatory report for the controlled deer hunt. Half the guys I know that hunt it have never submitted a report, and it has not affected their participation in the hunt the following year. I always keep an digital copy of my report as proof just in case, though.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." Ernest Benn
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August 13th, 2017, 09:13 AM
#14
Pretty easy now that we can do on line. Just have to remember to do it.
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August 13th, 2017, 02:57 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
I sure hope that OMNRF biologists don't use the survey results to "extrapolate" the stats for future tag allotments without gleaning other information sources from the boots on the ground.
You said it! IMO the surveys should only be gleaning hunter hours participated. Asking about wolves seen or wolf scats stepped over only proves there are wolves and yes they shyte in the woods like bears. How many hunters would even know the difference? Tags applied can help determine the kill for that season but mandatory check stations would be even better. If this is the information used to set the stage for upcoming seasons then why do we need high priced biologists. We can just recruit some homeless from the soup kitchens - pay them minimal wage and get the same results. What the surveys do not know is how many animals are still out there. If predators are prevalent, if we the hunter has overharvested, winter kill etc. Until they get some hard data then I'm voting for the soup kitchen option! At least we'll save some money. Hello Wynne! are you hearing this. Save some money and help the poor at the same time! Fire all those MNR staff directly responsible! Past practice does dictate future behaviour. How long can this go on!
If you keep doing what you've always done. You'll keep getting what you've always got!
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