I have to reach out to members. Here it is.

[Hunter John]

Wow , Musky. That's a tough one and other than meeting the Dr and trying to work it out through him I don't know what to suggest. Perhaps a Lawyer is a good idea at least for some advice ? Or check in with canadiangunnutz .they have a legalese sub forum and many more members than we have here some of whom are law enforcement , Drs and lawyers but as with everything take what you read with a grain of salt.

[bellerivercrossbowhunter]

I think about my own relationship with my family doctor. I see her maybe once per year. She has no idea what goes on in my head & I can see her re-fusing to fill in the form if I asked her to. With todays litigation crazy society I wouldn't blame her. She knows my physical side very well but my mental state not so much.

I really think the RCMP needs to have pre-approved mental health specialists that can truly evaluate individuals when they answer yes to the red-flag questions. How in the heck is a family Doctor supposed to know our mental health? They were not trained for that.

The spousal questions really tick me off as well. Suppose a guy is married to vegetarian anti hunter. I have seen the conflict that this causes when the guy asks his wife to sign off on the form. I think it's ridiculous to ask your spouse to sign on the dotted line.

[Muskyhunter1001]

I think about my own relationship with my family doctor. I see her maybe once per year. She has no idea what goes on in my head & I can see her re-fusing to fill in the form if I asked her to. With todays litigation crazy society I wouldn't blame her. She knows my physical side very well but my mental state not so much.

I really think the RCMP needs to have pre-approved mental health specialists that can truly evaluate individuals when they answer yes to the red-flag questions. How in the heck is a family Doctor supposed to know our mental health? They were not trained for that.

The spousal questions really tick me off as well. Suppose a guy is married to vegetarian anti hunter. I have seen the conflict that this causes when the guy asks his wife to sign off on the form. I think it's ridiculous to ask your spouse to sign on the dotted line.

I agree. My last ditched attempt will be asking them to send me to whomever they choose to do my assessment they can come to my house. They can interview everybody in my life. They can bug my phone for all I care. I have nothing to hide.

On a side note.... maybe people with anxiety shouldn’t rent Home Depot trucks. Or heck! Maybe we shouldn’t be allowed to drive either !!


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[FISH-ON]

Talk to your doctor, you may find that he/she is an " anti hunter, anti firearms " type of person, if that's the case , find an understanding doctor.

I totally agree...sometimes the doctor could be having a bad day/week and taking it on the patient...go elsewhere if not satisfied

[patvetzal]

Some people, weither they are politicians, doctors, police or social workers have preconceived ideas about owning a gun. You won't change their minds......
My local mp refuses to get involved with ANY gun questions because his friends in the GTA feel that it won't make a difference.

[yellow dog]

Hi folks. Sorry if this is in the wrong thread

Disclaimer: personal information

I’ve been dealing with this situation now for quite some time and January will mark one year.

In January of 2017 I applied for my PAL renewal and when the question pops up about anxiety/depression in the last five years I answered yes like a responsible and ethical person would do. Due to the nature of my job I’ve had to deal with a lot of stress and really messed up situations. If I told you folks half of what I’ve seen and dealt with you wouldn’t believe me even if I shared some stories (which I’m not allowed to). I have sought counselling through work programs and my doctor is well aware of what I deal with and the stress and PTSD I’ve acquired over the years of doing what I do.

So, after waiting a long time to get my PAL renewal paperwork back I finally checked the mail one day and saw an envelope from the CFO office. I excitedly opened it and in the envelop was a slew of paperwork to bring to my doctor. I thought at the time no big deal. I’ve never indicated to my doctor that there was harm to myself or others and he would gladly (for a fee) fill it out and I’d be on my way. WRONG. After leaving it with him for a few weeks his secretary finally calls me back and says he’s not willing to fill it out. I was astonished and saddened at the news and went to retrieve my paperwork like a scorned dog. I immediately contacted the CFO in Whitby and she’s been so great to deal with and has been lenient with extensions to get my paperwork sorted out. Not sure how long I get but I’m running out of options

I’ve been an outstanding member of society, law abiding citizen and responsible gun owner my entire life. I’ve been around firearms my entire existence and my dad did an amazing job raising me to be who I am. Once I left the nest I obviously had to get my own PAL as I wanted my own firearms and venture out into the world with what my dad taught me all those years. The instructor teaching my course laughed when it came time to do the practical and flat out said I should be teaching this course ha ha. My dad taught me well [emoji106]. Also, when he passes I will be inheriting many firearms and some that are quite rare and worth a lot of money, however, now I stand to lose them [emoji17]. Not to mention the sentimental value [emoji20].

As someone who spent countless days outdoors camping, shooting, fishing and hunting this is destroying me inside. I feel as though I’m a victim of the media these days being painted with a really broad brush. So with this said I’m reaching out to members on how to proceed and what other avenues I have. I’m at a loss here folks. Hunting season around the corner and first time in a LONG time Won’t be going out.






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Your first paragraph basically says it all. You have had a lot to deal with along that included counselling from your work place that your doctor is well aware of. I do find it strange that a secretary would pass this message from the doctor to you. Doctors are well aware of the importance of these types of forms especially with regards to your mental health.My wife works at a doctors office and has never had to pass this sort of information/message to a patient. Most professionals would meet with you face to face to discuss reasons for or against filling out the paperwork regardless of politics. Good luck.

[Fox]

Your first paragraph basically says it all. You have had a lot to deal with along that included counselling from your work place that your doctor is well aware of. I do find it strange that a secretary would pass this message from the doctor to you. Doctors are well aware of the importance of these types of forms especially with regards to your mental health.My wife works at a doctors office and has never had to pass this sort of information/message to a patient. Most professionals would meet with you face to face to discuss reasons for or against filling out the paperwork regardless of politics. Good luck.

I agree here, what are the chances that the doctor did not actually say they would not fill out the forms, this is not a professional doctor.

[Hunter John]

Maybe the nurse never gave it to the Doctor in the first place.?? I would definitely make an apt to see the Dr.

[Muskyhunter1001]

Maybe the nurse never gave it to the Doctor in the first place.?? I would definitely make an apt to see the Dr.

Oh trust me I spoke to my doctor. Basically told him what I shared here and nothin. Couldn’t get me out of his office fast enough. The secretary is awesome to deal. My doctor has been understanding with my issues when it comes to work and supports me 100%. He is just anti firearm I think.


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[welsh]

The question for the doctor is whether his refusal is based on a medical reason. If not, find a new doctor, and let the CFO know. They are aware that sometimes people won't help for reasons that have nothing to do with the applicant.

If he does say it's a medical opinion, you can always get a second one. But your doctor's medical opinion will carry more weight with the CFO.

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