Hunting deer near farms etc. Pesticides and herbicides ?!?

[MikePal]

I didn't see it mentioned..but lets not forgot, but the problem with Wild Game meat (Deer and Moose) in some parts of the province is that the are contaminated with things like Cadnium from polluted soil. Just being 'Wild' is not a guaranteed it's healthy for you.

Some info on this past thread..https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...al-organs-meat

[jaycee]

I didn't see it mentioned..but lets not forgot, but the problem with Wild Game meat (Deer and Moose) in some parts of the province is that the are contaminated with things like Cadnium from polluted soil. Just being 'Wild' is not a guaranteed it's healthy for you.

Some info on this past thread..https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...al-organs-meat

All the warnings over the years, have all pertained to " organ meats " in some parts of Ontario.
I highly doubt that any hunter has been able to consume enough liver heart or kidneys from deer or moose to the extent that eating them will shorten his/her life considerably.
Going to " Mac Donalds " for most of your meals has more of a health risk would be my thought on the subject, just look at all the obese people , young and old that waddle in and out of "rotten ronnies ".

[gbk]

This is a really interesting thread with many really good inputs,and even more opinions.If we look at the pure difference of the wild game-like deer versus a farm raised cattle per say(the situation with pigs and chicken is even further from their natural way of living -since they are mostly caged off thru their life span)lets try to list the differences between the two,and also the similarities.

Venison-lean muscle mass,cattle-depends on the way the cattle was raised,it may mean some or very little movement(fence-cage)thus deer has "real"muscle mass,while cattle has softer tissues,weaker muscle etc,which may impact the taste of the meat,but otherwise no "health impact"on consumer.
Cattle eats a lot (or)inclusively feed,which is from farms,and we all agree farms use fertilizers,herbicides(and a bit )of pesticides-deer eats some of that,for sure(soy,corn etc)but deer eats other stuff(mast,soft mast,twigs,flowers,leafs etc)and a LOT of it,where most of the food source has no pesticides and very little or no chemicals(bushes are not fertilized or sprayed by any one-we can agree on that)thus deer's diet is while being a mixture,contains a whole lot less chemicals then farmed animals do.
Other chemicals-cadmium,air borne pollutants etc,from the soil(polluted ages ago)or fresh- we must admit both the deer and the cattle is exposed to them.This being relatively equal is kind of a wash.We can ignore regional differences,because they may work both ways..........
Man made Antibiotics-cattle is exposed to it,deer is not.Period.
Hormones-while there is much debate about hormones,the food industry does use growth hormones on a lot of farmed animals,while deer is never exposed to it.Time allowed for hormones to "leach"out from the farmed animals is great,but it does not eliminate the fact that those animals were exposed to them,and the real health impact is debatable.The deer does not have this issue-therefore with the venison there is no debate if artificial growth hormones are Ok or not OK. Lets leave natural hormones out from the equitation-they both have natural hormones,so that point is a wash(if not moot)
Our food we buy in stores must be good ,because it is checked,inspected on many levels.Yet it contains many thing we may know about,or not.It may not kill us,but it can make us develop some "unusual"health issues.May not.......... Venison however is not tested,therefore can potentially be a health hazard(mostly bio hazard-infections,infectious diseases,etc)however the meat itself is a lot closer to a "natural"state of a meat,as it was for millions of years.Good or bad-i am not saying,just explaining the pros and the cons.
Next step up on a healthier more natural meat would be the moose meat(no pesticied,little herbicides,no growth hormones,pure nature-minus some air borne pollutants)But hey-where is our moose by now, to benefit all of us from the healthy meat..............

I am no "green"nor own any interest in any health food- or A&W ,or so on.
However the deer lives and feeds "almost"as it lived/fed millions of years ago,and our cattle does not. The rest of the topic is good for a healthy debate........

[JoePa]

Let me tell you what I think - I'm not a farmer but I live in farm country and have talked to and visited a lot of farms - when going through a hog farm sometime ago - in the building that housed the little pigs and their mothers where was a large table full of large syringes - the farmer told me that he had to keep his piglets safe by giving them antibiotics - also told me that the business was very competitive and that he had only a couple months to get the pigs up to a certain weight in order to make any money - so he gave the pigs growth hormones - then there is the potato farmer - he sprayed the field with weed killer before planting the potatoes - then sprays twice for bugs diseases while the potatoes are growing - then he sprays to kill the vegetation before he digs up the potatoes with a big machine - then the potatoes are sprayed again so they don't sprout while in storage - then there is the turkey farmer who has to feed the turkeys food with antibiotics so they don't get some diseases that would wipe out his whole flock - are you going to tell me that all this spraying and injections are not going to do harm to humans over time - Sure most farmers don't want to harm people but the bottom line is that they got to make sure that they have something to sell otherwise they are out of business -

I remember years ago being in a barber shop and a potato farmer was in the chair - we got talking about spraying potatoes for bugs and diseases - this farmer say that he puts a systemic spray on the field that enters the potato plant so he only needs to spray one time - when we say that if the spray gets into the plant it probably gets into the potato - he said that he didn't think so - the barber and I told him we sure wouldn't want to eat any of his potatoes - the bottom line is - raise your own food as much as possible