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December 12th, 2017, 08:56 AM
#91

Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
I hate to cloud the issue here. But some radio stations are reporting the ladies that are accusing Moore of assault, are receiving financial compensation for coming forward and doing it at this moment. If that was true, it casts even more doubt on their stories. If it turns out to be a politically motivated attempt to hurt Moore, it well back fire on the ladies. If is true they get what they deserve, and I say bury them deep.
Because not only have they damaged a man's reputation, but it will make it even harder for anyone to believe the next person that says they were assaulted or harrassed.
Some radio stations also claim that the earth is flat.
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December 12th, 2017 08:56 AM
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December 12th, 2017, 09:08 AM
#92
Here's a CNN link since so many seem to believe their reports:
Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks: Roy Moore accuser forged yearbook inscription, is 'clearly a liar'
(CNN)Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks said Tuesday that a woman who accused Republican nominee for US Senate Roy Moore of sexually assaulting her when she was 16 is "clearly a liar."
The woman, Beverly Young Nelson, now 56, showed reporters at a news conference earlier this month what she said was Moore's inscription in her yearbook in 1977, which read, "To a sweeter more beautiful girl, I could not say, 'Merry Christmas.' Love, Roy Moore DA, 12-22-77,
[COLOR=#262626]"What you have is the mainstream leftwing socialist Democrat news media trying to distort the evidence to cause people to reach the conclusion that Roy Moore engaged in unlawful conduct with a minor and my analysis of the evidence is that is not the case," Brooks said on "The Dale Jackson Show" on WVNN Alabama radio. "Most importantly, the media likes to say 'well, there are nine complainers.' Seven of them aren't complainers. In fact, I would be calling seven of those ladies as witnesses on behalf of Roy Moore on the issue of whether he is engaged in any kind of unlawful conduct."
[COLOR=#262626]He continued, "There are only two that have asserted that Roy Moore engaged in unlawful conduct. One of those is clearly a liar because that one forged the 'love, Roy Moore' part of a yearbook in order to try to for whatever reason get at Roy Moore and win this seat for the Democrats and there's a lot more to it as to why I believe that the evidence is almost incontrovertible about whether the yearbook was forged."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politi...ore/index.html
Last edited by last5oh_302; December 12th, 2017 at 09:11 AM.
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December 12th, 2017, 09:16 AM
#93

Originally Posted by
Fox
Some radio stations also claim that the earth is flat.
Which ones?
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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December 12th, 2017, 09:46 AM
#94
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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December 12th, 2017, 09:55 AM
#95

Originally Posted by
Fox
Some radio stations also claim that the earth is flat.
I know of an Astronomy Professor that has an assignment that asks his students to explain how the a person living on the moon could prove that the Earth orbits the moon, using Scientific observations. He says the ones that learn the most are that ones that fail because they can't figure out how.
It has to do with the point of reference the observer has.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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December 12th, 2017, 10:01 AM
#96
Has too much time on their hands
There are sexual predators that need to be caught and punished. It's getting alittle out of hand.
I could care less if you's want to flame me go ahead. For every woman who has been harassed in the film industry, there's 500 more lined up willing to do what ever it takes to get what they want. I believe some of these claims are coming from some women who figured they would give sexual pleasures to get a role, job, what ever they were after, and then when turned down, they turn on the person.
Gomeshi is a prime example. Two female friends tried to get into his world and after they put out to get a piece of the pie, they were sent packing, only to cry sexual assault, which were false. Now the CBC is paying out a enormous settlement to a man the two women try to ruin.
Can't always be so quick to make judgment as not all people are truthful when it comes to money and sex.
Last edited by canadaman30; December 12th, 2017 at 10:07 AM.
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December 12th, 2017, 10:09 AM
#97
Sex predators deserve to be exposed and punished. No brainer. But let's not kid ourselves the way business is run in Hollywood is no secret and for the 10% who were victimized I would say the other 90% knowingly and willingly hit the casting couch. Hollywood is a LaLa land of self entitled egomaniacs and narcissists who feed on those who want to join the club.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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December 12th, 2017, 11:24 AM
#98

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
There are sexual predators that need to be caught and punished. It's getting alittle out of hand.
I could care less if you's want to flame me go ahead. For every woman who has been harassed in the film industry, there's 500 more lined up willing to do what ever it takes to get what they want. I believe some of these claims are coming from some women who figured they would give sexual pleasures to get a role, job, what ever they were after, and then when turned down, they turn on the person.
Gomeshi is a prime example. Two female friends tried to get into his world and after they put out to get a piece of the pie, they were sent packing, only to cry sexual assault, which were false. Now the CBC is paying out a enormous settlement to a man the two women try to ruin.
Can't always be so quick to make judgment as not all people are truthful when it comes to money and sex.
After working many years (after law enforcement) in the auto industry,I've seen enough BS harassment charges to fill a large bucket. Many times,both supervisors and regular male employees were hauled to the "tribunal" by female employees who tried to flirt/screw their way to the top on seniority-based positions or "get even" with someone for some real or imagined slight,becoming bitter and angry. Most (although,a few were not) were unfounded,but,the damage was done and supervisor's careers came to a screaming halt. Even scarier,though,was how complaints could be laid by "third party" information after a conversation happened to be overheard by someone else who then laid the complaint to Union reps or supervision. They were,then, duty-bound and required by Ontario labor law to start the investigation process regardless of whether or not information was verifiably true or face severe sanctions,themselves. I kept all my interactions with fellow employees and upper management on an a cordial "arm's length" basis even if it meant being viewed as a bit of a "stick-in-the-mud",also,being very careful to keep work and personal life distinctly separate. In a mine-field world of the politically correct union/management work environment,it was the only way to survive unscathed. I'd worked too long and hard with too much to lose to let some miscreant destroy it all. Thank God I retired when I did.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 12th, 2017, 03:01 PM
#99

Originally Posted by
last5oh_302
Here's a CNN link since so many seem to believe their reports:
Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks: Roy Moore accuser forged yearbook inscription, is 'clearly a liar'
(CNN)Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks said Tuesday that a woman who accused Republican nominee for US Senate Roy Moore of sexually assaulting her when she was 16 is "clearly a liar."
The woman, Beverly Young Nelson, now 56, showed reporters at a news conference earlier this month what she said was Moore's inscription in her yearbook in 1977, which read, "To a sweeter more beautiful girl, I could not say, 'Merry Christmas.' Love, Roy Moore DA, 12-22-77,
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"What you have is the mainstream leftwing socialist Democrat news media trying to distort the evidence to cause people to reach the conclusion that Roy Moore engaged in unlawful conduct with a minor and my analysis of the evidence is that is not the case," Brooks said on "The Dale Jackson Show" on WVNN Alabama radio. "Most importantly, the media likes to say 'well, there are nine complainers.' Seven of them aren't complainers. In fact, I would be calling seven of those ladies as witnesses on behalf of Roy Moore on the issue of whether he is engaged in any kind of unlawful conduct."
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He continued, "There are only two that have asserted that Roy Moore engaged in unlawful conduct. One of those is clearly a liar because that one forged the 'love, Roy Moore' part of a yearbook in order to try to for whatever reason get at Roy Moore and win this seat for the Democrats and there's a lot more to it as to why I believe that the evidence is almost incontrovertible about whether the yearbook was forged."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politi...ore/index.html
Just to be clear. CNN is not reporting those facts, they are quoting Mo Brooks, who recently lost his bid for Senate and is now endorsing Roy Moore.
The last I read on the subject, Beverly Nelson had admitted to adding the date and restaurant name to the yearbook entry - for context.
EDIT - Fun Fact: Apparently Mo Brooks used to be a talk-radio host for that same radio station, right before Sean Hannity took over the job. Small world
Last edited by mooboy76; December 12th, 2017 at 03:04 PM.
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December 13th, 2017, 10:52 AM
#100

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Back on topic......that's not the way it works,though,jaycee. It's never up to the accused to prove their innocence. It's up to the accusers to prove guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's not happening,here,because time (in this case 40 years) has clouded memories,evidence has been lost (if there ever was any in the first place) and trial is taking place by allegations and innuendo in the media.
If that is not how it works , then how/why do those that are accused by what they did 20/25/40 years ago wind up in court ? this has happened to many , hockey coaches, scout leaders, priests/ministers, teachers, these have all been reported on in the newspapers , with the accused going to court, convicted and are now serving time .
I can't think of his name but the one that comes to mind is the hockey coach that molested a now famous hockey player who was in his teens at the time .
Last edited by jaycee; December 13th, 2017 at 09:34 PM.